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Thread: Expansion 2

zazo
Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:16 am
#27

yeah saw that


so lemme get this straight


wookiees get a home world that gives them well basically nothing.


jedi get a new toy for space


and WHERE(insert string of explitives here)IS MY(here)SMUGGLER(and here) REVAMP!!!!!!!!



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01201986
Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:21 am
#28






zazo wrote:

jedi get a new toy for space



the report didnt say the ship was for jedi. it said it was for "high-level" pilots, or something similar. if it is for jedi exclusively, someone is going to get hurt. they said jedi would never have an advantage in space. (and i know you're all going to say "so what, they've lied before!") we just have to wait and see. hoping for an official post from a dev soon, detailing this a bit more




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JediNizar2
Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:47 am
#29






01201986 wrote:

For those of you who still rant on about the seperate dev teams...here. I took the liberty of pulling up Gordon Walton's comments about dev "strike teams".


Gordon:

As part of this reorganization we have set the team up as a series of strike teams, each working in their own development environments. These strike teams include:


Live - Responsible for service issues, bugs and small (in terms of development time) features and enhancements to gameplay. Many of the cool changes in recent publishes have come out of the Live strike team.


Infrastructure - This team works deep down in the engine room of SWG, improving the underlying technologies the game depends on. Most of what they work on you would only notice by the *lack* of bad things occurring and improved developer productivity, though they also work on features for Live that require longer development cycles.


Combat Upgrade - This team is working on upgrading our entire combat system to enhance the experience of combat within Star Wars Galaxies. Their mission is to make combat more fun, interactive, and Star War-sy. We have been taking extensive design feedback from the correspondents and alpha testers and are driving towards an alpha test which will open in a few weeks. Over the next six weeks we will be releasing more information to all players on the exciting things the Combat Upgrade will bring to SWG.


"Secret Team" - It's no secret that we're going to continually work on expansions, but we're not allowed to tell you right now what we're working on for our next expansion. It will be cool though, we can promise that!


Content (includes Spawning and Loot too) - This is a new team made up primarily of people who are new to SWG. They are working on new directed content while simultaneously improving our spawns and loot system. You've seen some of their work already and I expect their output to ramp up every publish as they get more fluent with their tools.


GUI Team - Another new team focused on improving our GUI. They are working with the Combat Upgrade folks and are going to be revising and adding new options for our standard game GUI.


Events Team - This team brings you the Live events on our service, but they're also working to bring many of their tools and goodies to the players so you can use them directly. Watch for new player-empowering elements to appear in future publishes. Note that the relative amount of features and content in a given publish may change, simply because some of teams above may be on a longer development cadence than two weeks. Some development efforts take multiple weeks or months to complete, and when they are ready, they will come in to the game in the next publish.


Quality Assurance - We have also expanded our QA team to support this increased development effort. This team is working closely with the developers to help identify and correct issues prior to publication of these new elements. With these new additions to our team, the goal is to continuously refine the quality of our publishes and the overall game. You can help us increase the quality of the game by checking out the new features on Test Center as they come online and using either the In-Testing forums or the /bug command to report any issues you might see. We really appreciate the help in bringing you a higher quality game!


Community - We have also worked to improve our communication with you via our website and boards. The new message board structure has allowed us to gather feedback on issues better and the website and launchpad have both seen a flurry of updates. Much of the content from the recent publishes has come directly from player feedback and ideas gathered from the boards and we hope to continue that trend. We have also expanded our message boards to include a customer service board and a community relations board, both of which allow you to give us direct feedback on how we communicate with you.


Customer Service - We have recently completed the implementation of CSR's to specific servers. In the pilot it was clear to us that this is a much more effective way for us to be closer to the issues and to fully understand service problems as they affect the various servers. In conjunction with this effort we also opened up the Customer Service Forums which can be found here. The addition of these two new CS programs has already had a positive impact on the service. For the future we plan on offering a look at what the issues are from the inside out. We regularly circulate our "same page" newsletter internally to communicate what issues we are seeing and how we are handling them. Our plan is to post a public version of this so you can be on the "same page" with us.



That "secret team" is the one that developed the expansion we are all arguing about. The "content" team would be the one assigned to our revamp. So I honestly don't see why you're getting upset over it. Was it a poor allocation of resources? perhaps, perhaps not. we will have to wait and see. but no one was upset about it until just now









I only can say Bla Bla Bla, the same storie told us the Devs with JTL, that there is 2 teams 1 for JTL and the other 1 will continue with updates and Bug fixies.... What happen? after pub10 they canceled all the other planned Pub, listed on their Web site include the smuggler revamp, they called back Greenmarie who was sharing with us good smuggler revamp idea, and every body began on the work on JTL only.


I will tell u something, the second expansion was first planned as 1 expansiob with JTL, I don't know the reason, but i think it's money, so they split it in 2 expansion. After the CU every 1 will only work on the expansion.






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01201986
Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:59 am
#30






JediNizar2 wrote:


I only can say Bla Bla Bla, the same storie told us the Devs with JTL, that there is 2 teams 1 for JTL and the other 1 will continue with updates and Bug fixies.... What happen? after pub10 they canceled all the other planned Pub, listed on their Web site include the smuggler revamp, they called back Greenmarie who was sharing with us good smuggler revamp idea, and every body began on the work on JTL only.


I will tell u something, the second expansion was first planned as 1 expansiob with JTL, I don't know the reason, but i think it's money, so they split it in 2 expansion. After the CU every 1 will only work on the expansion.





this expansion is coming in conjunction with the CU, not after it.


IGN: Though we don't have any details yet, we also know that the new expansion pack will feature plenty of new weapons and new armor types. It will also use a new interface. We'll have more details on those features and others in the near future


Message Edited by 01201986 on 03-09-2005 10:01 AM



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Shrendyc
Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:04 am
#31

Rage of the wookiees? Please...come up with a snappier title at least...


This is almost as bad as "SWG: The next expansion"



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HOTDOG
Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:19 am
#32






yimaz wrote:

Guys this has to do with movie tie-ins and nothing to do with anything that is currently in game. Do we all want a revamp, Hell Ya! but is it really necessary to get pissed off every single time they add something new to the game that does not feature our revamp? No.....


Im as pissed about our lack of attention as anyone but I will enjoy the expanssion for what it is, a new planet, some new missions, some new ships/mounts, new weapons, armorand cybornetic limbs. Chill out guys all this is in regards to smuggler is the same as its been for the last 2 yrs so as far as we go its nothing new. If you get pissed every time something new hits this gameand does not include smuggler your going to go bald from stress






I hear you Yim. And you are usually on point with your posts.

But it seems to me- (and I'm going to try not to swear here) that we were having this very same discussion about this time last year.


Now, you and I both KNOW this came from on high. This is more a LA decision than an SOE decision.

And it will be cool to see the Wookie world (especially if it is a lot of platforms in trees and whatnot).


Hell, I MIGHT even get one of them Bull$H!7 cybernetic arms to enhance my skills- but Mv7h3rFook me if I don't feel COMPLETELY FuK!N ignored at this point.And I have absolutely NO reason to EVER thinkthey are going to *&$% get aroundto revamping us.


I would feel better- MUCH BETTER- if they could tell me what they were THINKING about giving us.

NOT how we would get it.

NOT when we would get it.

But what they are THINKING!


I would love to know:

If they have the INTENTION of doing smuggling bounties.

If they would LIKE to implement Smuggling.

If they were CONSIDERING taking contraband off of vendors.


right now I don't know D_ _ K!

waitaminute...

I DO know that I can have my arms replaced with Cybernetic ones if I dole out the cash for this expansion.


The least they could do is tell us "We are planning (x) and (y) but (z) might not be possible because we think it would be too much of a strain on the player base- or it's not in the direction we wish to go."

They owe us THAT much.


This way I can move on with my character or whatever. We've been at this for too *&#^$(* long.


UGH!


Sorry about the swearing...






seriously, I might get cybernetic arms- at least a hand






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yimaz
Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:23 am
#33






HOTDOG wrote:





yimaz wrote:

Guys this has to do with movie tie-ins and nothing to do with anything that is currently in game. Do we all want a revamp, Hell Ya! but is it really necessary to get pissed off every single time they add something new to the game that does not feature our revamp? No.....


Im as pissed about our lack of attention as anyone but I will enjoy the expanssion for what it is, a new planet, some new missions, some new ships/mounts, new weapons, armorand cybornetic limbs. Chill out guys all this is in regards to smuggler is the same as its been for the last 2 yrs so as far as we go its nothing new. If you get pissed every time something new hits this gameand does not include smuggler your going to go bald from stress






I hear you Yim. And you are usually on point with your posts.

But it seems to me- (and I'm going to try not to swear here) that we were having this very same discussion about this time last year.


Now, you and I both KNOW this came from on high. This is more a LA decision than an SOE decision.

And it will be cool to see the Wookie world (especially if it is a lot of platforms in trees and whatnot).


Hell, I MIGHT even get one of them Bull$H!7 cybernetic arms to enhance my skills- but Mv7h3rFook me if I don't feel COMPLETELY FuK!N ignored at this point.And I have absolutely NO reason to EVER thinkthey are going to *&$% get aroundto revamping us.


I would feel better- MUCH BETTER- if they could tell me what they were THINKING about giving us.

NOT how we would get it.

NOT when we would get it.

But what they are THINKING!


I would love to know:

If they have the INTENTION of doing smuggling bounties.

If they would LIKE to implement Smuggling.

If they were CONSIDERING taking contraband off of vendors.


right now I don't know D_ _ K!

waitaminute...

I DO know that I can have my arms replaced with Cybernetic ones if I dole out the cash for this expansion.


The least they could do is tell us "We are planning (x) and (y) but (z) might not be possible because we think it would be too much of a strain on the player base- or it's not in the direction we wish to go."

They owe us THAT much.


This way I can move on with my character or whatever. We've been at this for too *&#^$(* long.


UGH!


Sorry about the swearing...






seriously, I might get cybernetic arms- at least a hand






/agree on all points, as usual.



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KardenTyrell
Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:51 am
#34

Considering that planet is under heavy imperial blockade...I hope they will truelly establish that...and that if rebel's were to try to land on the planet, they'de need to be smuggled there



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SpinningCloud
Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:58 am
#35

Yimaz,


Problem is that, as Hotdog pointed out, we're exactly where we were a year ago. Basically everything takes piority over us. They come up with a new idea and it doesn't go in the queue BEHIND our revamp, it goes in INFRONT of our revamp.


Always we are last and there is a neverending supply of things to fix before us and things to add before us. No amount of new secret dev teams will ever catch up with the infinitely expanding priority list with US at the END.


The fact that they have absolutely NOTHING to tell us about general plans for us...and this after nearly two years of our detailed ideas...means to me they haven't even thought about it in any kind of serious way let alone put anything down on paper.




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01201986
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:00 am
#36

someone made a good point earlier. this whole thing is almost assuredly a LA move, not something started by SOE.



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yimaz
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:45 am
#37











SpinningCloud wrote:

Yimaz,


Problem is that, as Hotdog pointed out, we're exactly where we were a year ago. Basically everything takes piority over us. They come up with a new idea and it doesn't go in the queue BEHIND our revamp, it goes in INFRONT of our revamp. - I know and thats my point we are pissed off every other day and nothing has changed in a year. So what has being pissed off gotten us? Nothing..... More over you know they would have been fools not to do something to tie into the new movie so this is no suprise to me.


Always we are last and there is a neverending supply of things to fix before us and things to add before us. No amount of new secret dev teams will ever catch up with the infinitely expanding priority list with US at the END. - yep and it sucks but its the way it is. Does it piss me off, for sure but Im also tried of b*tching about it.


The fact that they have absolutely NOTHING to tell us about general plans for us...and this after nearly two years of our detailed ideas...means to me they haven't even thought about it in any kind of serious way let alone put anything down on paper. - maybe, maybe not we just dont know what they are planing and the expansion is proof of that. More over we have all had this converstation like 1,000,000 times. There is no new info on us and we wont get any until they are in the mood to do something with us. We have been pissed formore then ayear with no changes and we b*tch about it all this time. Right or wrong (I b*tch too) its just as old as waiting for the never coming revamp. Ya know what I mean??






I guess I feel this way today because this is a nice little expansion (no not what we want) and everytime they add something new we all get pissed off. If they added nothing we would all get pissed off and when they do our revamp it will not be exactly what we want and we will all get pissed off, see where Im going with this....


Right or Wrong Im just tired of always being pissed off about this profession. I love being a Smuggler and love the Community and hope we get a great revamp with in the next 10yrs. Im just tried of bashing and seeing other basheverything they do with the game and all the time (not just us but other forums as well). Like the blow off's from the dev's about our profession the constant bashing of the game from everyone (myself included)just gets old after awhile.

I say pick your battles, the way they handled FD for example was shotty and we let them know it. This expansion, Im sorry but this is marketing for the new movie (and attract new players)and again they would be stupid not to do some sort of tie in. I dont think this is something to be pissed about, its the nature of the beast.


Message Edited by yimaz on 03-09-2005 12:00 PM



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TheWok
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:48 am
#38

I'm underwhelmed with the very concept of this expansion. Kashyyyk? Come on, now. Why do I get the feeling that doing ANYTHING to help the Empire on this planet will make the Wookiees hate me? It just seems like a pretty Rebel-centric expansion.

"The Empire is worried that the Alliance is gaining a foothold on the planet and willing to fight to prevent the population from going over to the Rebels. They've also backed a number of Trandoshan slavers who capture and sell Wookiees to buyers throughout the galaxy."

"Though Rebel players can make a name for themselves by fighting against the Empire on Kashyyyk, the actual Rebel presence on the planet is very limited. Imperial players will enjoy the company of other Imperials on Kashyyyk but if they find themselves helping out the Trandoshan slaver faction, they'll quickly find themselves with many powerful Wookiee enemies."

So, after reading these two parts of the article, what exactly will we do if we don't want to piss off the Wookiees? There are few Rebels there for us to fight. Is it a vacation spot?!

I want an Empire-centric expansion.



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Vrond
Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:54 am
#39

From what I understand this expantion was a part of JTL that ran behind so they delayed it to get JTL out.



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