Smuggler Archive
Thread: Anyone noticed their damage slices arent so great?
DrevenStrobe
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:37 am
#27
I had a pretty good run on a group of 5 VKs for a customer the other day...
31% Damage
18% Speed
31% Damage
25% Damage
30% Damage
Needless to say he was very happy...like a 75k /tip happy.
I told him to go and make many sacrifices to the slicing gods.
Azarken
Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:39 am
#28
thats comforting too 
i must just be having an unusual run. was seriously worried they'd inadvertantly borked weapon slices. my armour slices are all coming out good. just my weapon ones that are bad atm.
i must just be having an unusual run. was seriously worried they'd inadvertantly borked weapon slices. my armour slices are all coming out good. just my weapon ones that are bad atm.
TheBeastlord
Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:23 am
#30
I have noted an extremely weird thing using my master smuggler... may it be random.. but I even noted down in a paper the results in some slicing sessions because I think my char was (and it may be) bugged some way...
This char sliced a lot for a living in the pastwith very good results in damage slices. Not a single problem so far. And the toon was always showing its "MASTER SMUGGLER" tag. When I became master weaponsmith, I just used the slicing for my own weapons and customer's weapons, and I noticed a real drop of my damage slices. NEVER... and I say NEVER got a slice higher than 25%... just if my toon was not master anymore. But the toon IS master smuggler.
I just thought that they touched something for nerfing slice... and I let it be. But a friend of mine who is new smuggler... slices with awesome results, and he started to slice even my own weapons. Talking with him using my smuggler char, he asked me why I was showing the title "novice pistoleer" instead "master smuggler" and I replied him for not provoking the "Hey can u slice something for me?" when I walk by Coronet or another crowded place.
Then I had the idea of making this experiment... I picked up a bunch of weapons from my workshop and i started to slice them for testing something: 21%, 24% damage and some speed slices were the first one (did not noted these first ones on a paper but that was the range). Then I switched the title to master smuggler and the results with6 D18 pistolfollows:
6 weapons sliced - 28% dmg, 31% dmg, 21% dmg, 26% speed, 34% dmg, 27% speed (master smuggler tag "on")
Title turned off, I grab 6 more D18:
6 weapons slices - 27% speed, 21% dmg, 17% dmg, 21% speed, 21% speed, 25% dmg(master smuggler tag "off")
Title on
Just 4 weapons - 31% dmg, 29% speed, 30% dmg, 29% dmg
I know, I know... it can be just random results... but since that day I perma-show the master smuggler tag on my char and my results improved a lot. Must be superstition? maybe.. but it does work to me? Definitely. And you don't loose anything trying it in the case your master smuggler tag is "off"
Final point: excuse my english because I am spanish and english is not my native language
SpinningCloud
Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:29 am
#31
The Beastlord,
Your sample sizes are simply statistically INSIGNIFICANT.
Try doing the same experiment with 100 in each sample size then come back here and tell us what you've found.
I'm constantly amazed by people's lack of understanding of statistics and probability...are these things simply not being taught in schools the way they were when I was a kid?
Samaw
Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:39 am
#32
ROFL as I succefully got my 480 & 514 max DE 10 sliced Plus 546 DXR 6 609 T 21 using the tell slice system. As everyone still thinks the world is flat.
SmugglinZane wrote:
Azarken wrote:
Eh i've been a master smuggler for a long time and not ever experienced a drout like this. so cmon is anyone else experiencing the same problem, or am i just having an unusually bad 40 weapon+ run.
Message Edited by Azarken on 02-01-2005 04:10 PM
You're not using a tell slice.
/hides from the other Smugglers who remember that thread.
Samaw
Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:44 am
#33
Azarken wrote:
Got master smuggler back saturday after giving it up a few months back and proceeded to slice my stuff. firstly my armour. Got an amazing set of slices. all encumberance all 30%+
then i did my weapons. got a wierd trend. 2x20% speed 2X22% speed 2x26% speed. really reallllllly bizzare. as i was hunting i picked up 5 more weapons and decided to slice them as a test. i got 1 19% damage slice and all the rest were speed and 26% or under. has anyone else noticed things seem a bit off?
I only ask as im getting 2 krayt flame throwers made tonight and im hesitent about slicing them at the moment.
No, I don't think anything has changed, but about 2 weeks ago I had a fellow weaponsmith/smuggler ask me the same question and last night I had run of a bunch of low damage slices. Nothing over 20% on 6 damage slices. But recently I was still getting the 30% slices also. I would just say that the luck of the Irish isn't with us lately for some reason.
Message Edited by Samaw on 02-03-2005 10:45 AM
SpinningCloud
Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:49 am
#34
Samsaw; "ROFL as I succefully got my 480 & 514 max DE 10 sliced Plus 546 DXR 6 609 T 21 using the tell slice system. As everyone still thinks the world is flat."
I HOPE this is sarcasm and you don't REALLY think a few good slices can be attributed to that lame 'tell slice' theory.
Doc_Rocker
Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:04 am
#35
I've been doing a lot of armour and weapons on contract with a bunch of guys nr Coronet.. i've been getting pretty high damage.. i remember doing a crate of T21's and got over 20% damage for pretty muchthe whole crate..
Armour also.. i got a load of 40%+ encumberance slices.. but unfortunately they were mainly bracers and pants..
but you take the rough with the smooth.. i did a friends armour and got 12% base on his chest and helmet.. ouch.. needless to say i wasnt happy
Happy Smuggling
Samaw
Thu Feb 03, 2005 9:53 am
#36
SpinningCloud wrote:
Samsaw; "ROFL as I succefully got my 480 & 514 max DE 10 sliced Plus 546 DXR 6 609 T 21 using the tell slice system. As everyone still thinks the world is flat."
I HOPE this is sarcasm and you don't REALLY think a few good slices can be attributed to that lame 'tell slice' theory.
SpittingWheel, If you wish I'll continue to let know the results of all my high end slices. Oh I also forgot to tell you about the berserker 516 max ROFL. Yes, I will accept that as far you &everyone elsein this flat universe, that I'm a fool. But with my continued luck on the high end weapons using that system. I'll continue to be happy in the fact that I feel pretty certain in being able to have the increased chance at getting the damage slices. But I also noticed with a closer look that the system seems work better on some days than others. Which makes me think that there may 3 or 4 different formulas that the system cylce's thru. Which if that is the case would explain when it was tested it didn't fully work. But as I had said earlier I was trying to show that the universe isn't flat.
zazo
Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:27 am
#37
I've not noticed an issue just the other day I sliced 3 krayt tenlos rifles 29% sp 28% dmg and 30% dmg
/shrug
only 3 but all good slices
SpinningCloud
Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:36 am
#38
Yeah, ok Samsaw...I once had an engineer working for me that reasoned things out like you do. He constantly looked at hardware/software systems and came up with the most convoluted theories for the bugs he was trying to fix. Needless to say henever actually solved any of them but he sure wasted a lot of my time and the company's money. In the end he made a much better tech than an engineer.
You can call my world "flat" if you want but my reasoning abilities gave me overthree decades of success as a hardware/softwareengineering manager.
Good luck to youwith your special-day-of-the-week-tell-slicing... *sigh*
Ternque01
Thu Feb 03, 2005 10:39 am
#39
Is it time to distribute the tinfoil helmets yet? Soon... very soon....