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Thread: Smuggler CU Conversion thread

Knightcrest
Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:35 pm
#14






SpinningCloud wrote:

Was happy with all the conversions EXCEPT my new krayt DL44 with barrel and scope.


Before:

Speed 1.7

Damage 71-260


After:

Speed 2.42/1.54

Damage 66-146


Also noticed that PUPs are effectively useless...at least the converted ones. Mostly they don't help the weapon in the slightest. In one instance actually decreased the DPS. Now perhaps that's because I tried them out on very high level weapons and maybe I was hitting the weapon max?


Anyway, PUPs are one less thing to spend credits on... unless you're a crafter







Same thing with me, my krayted DL-44 took a major hit as well. I'll try and get the stats in the morning when I log back in, but due to their ingenious idea of taking the metal version instead of the black version up to a high caliber weapon, these will not be viable. My DE-10 came out ok, not as high as I wanted, but still was like 858mx after conversion... again I would need to log back in after I get some sleep to get the actual dps etc.


The respec sucks,my commando/smuggler got shafted due to their changing of prereqs despite being a hybrid requiring master marksman and now will have to grind to get back to a full combat template again while all my buds get to go out and enjoy their free templates.


Overall though, I wasn't displeased with the weapon/armor conversions. Word to the wise though, have room in your inventory if you have armor equipped and decide to drop whatever prof it was cert'd in. Had to delete enough items to be able to get free space to convert my comp into recon armor after being overloaded. Thank goodness that wasn't live because there was nothing I wanted to delete






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Ragnaat
Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:06 am
#15

well, they've been making copies of live galaxies on TC3 & TC4... when your galaxy comes up on there you just log in and check the items in your inventory - it'll be like the first day on live (except for the bugs.. one hopes)

to get my numbers i posted i just ran to my house on bria and TC- bra and jotted down the stats and SN#s of a bunch of weps on live and then on tc and saw how things matched up. The old dps was just some simple math (average wep damage / weapon speed).

Nothing real exciting about it.. but it was nice to identify a few bugs and complain in the right threads about certain weapons getting screwed over wth some data.



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zakalex
Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:28 am
#16

Is there a schedule of when and which servers will be copied? I snooped around in the Conversion forum but didn't see anything there. I would like to help test it out if/when Starsider is copied to a TC.


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Jaspor
Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:38 am
#17

Interesting numbers....


I have some written down at home, I'll post them later on.


Here's something I noticed though.. my guns that had PUPs on them pre-conversion still had "yellow" names post-conversion ... but no longer showed they had PUPs on them. I was able to put one on these guns, and they worked as expected. Just wondering if the PUP-d or un-PUP-d numbers were used in the conversion.


My DE-10 that is like 440 max damage in live came out to like 800ish in the conversion.. Which doesn't seem quite fair if your 200 damage FWG5s were coming out about the same... God, and to think I've been obsessing about finding the perfect DE-10 for awhile now to slap my ADK on, and now they might just suck.


Numbers later.







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Jaspor
Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:12 am
#18

Okay, here's what my two Krayt DE-10s came out like:


#1


Old -

Min dam: 186

Max dam: 442

Speed: 3.7

DPS: 85.14


New -


Min dam: 454

Max dam: 903

Speed: 2.67

DPS: 253.97


#2



Old -

Min dam: 145

Max dam: 384

Speed: 3.1

DPS: 85.32



New-

Min dam: 453

Max dam: 821

Speed: 2.52

DPS: 252.7


While I was pretty happy with these conversions at first...Upon further review, it's quite disappointing... Especially since pretty "standard" DX2s converted with over 800 max damage, and around 240 base DPS... I mean, these guns are pretty hard and expensive to put together, not to mention the additional cost of Krayt tissues if you really want to maximize their potential... And now, they're barely better than a non-Krayt DX2 thatI can buy for like 2000 creds? Not quite right...




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_Monroe_
Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:50 am
#19

Any info on how existing spices converted?



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SpinningCloud
Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:12 am
#20

As far as I could tell, all spices converted the same.




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JediArashi
Thu Apr 21, 2005 11:19 am
#21






SpinningCloud wrote:

As far as I could tell, all spices converted the same.






Yeah, all my spices converted normally to the new equations. As far as the guns go, I liked that my DL44xt converted t onearly as good as my DE-10 since I won't be able to use the DE-10 anymore.


You have to remember that since the guns moved in status, some former "cheap" guns will now be nearly as powerful as some of the former elite guns. I think the DE-10 should be s step above for sure, but since it isn't live yet, we can't really tell how it'll effect the economy. In 2 months we may be able to get DE-10's for 100k, and the DX-2's for 50k. It's hard to say.



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lokidevil
Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:57 pm
#22



SpinningCloud wrote:
How did you get your comp converted to recon?!
Do you have to be wearing it to get it converted?
Mine was in my pack but I wasn't wearing it and I never got any kind of conversion prompt for my armor.
BTW, anyone know how to ask for a respec if you cancelled the first one they offered?




/ui action skillsRespec

Just right click like you would slice your armour and the text for conversion will come up, Its bugged atm and allows for double slicing.



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SpinningCloud
Fri Apr 22, 2005 3:16 pm
#23

JediArashi; "I liked that my DL44xt converted t onearly as good as my DE-10"


Tell me if your original DL44 was black or metal please?


Many peoples DL44s converted to far worse than they started as. Mine did and it was black with scope and barrel.


I'm wondering if the conversion for DL44s is based on their customization; black gets converted to the lower DPS version and metal to the higher.




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JediArashi
Fri Apr 22, 2005 5:41 pm
#24






SpinningCloud wrote:

JediArashi; "I liked that my DL44xt converted t onearly as good as my DE-10"


Tell me if your original DL44 was black or metal please?


Many peoples DL44s converted to far worse than they started as. Mine did and it was black with scope and barrel.


I'm wondering if the conversion for DL44s is based on their customization; black gets converted to the lower DPS version and metal to the higher.






Yeah, it was a metal DL-44 which were converted to DL-44xt's. The black DL-44's are still DL-44's. It went from a max dmg of about 145 or so to a max dmg of 778. Saweet!



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TomoRainer
Fri Apr 22, 2005 7:42 pm
#25

By the way, when I was checking out spice today, all the stuff I found on vendors and the bazaar had been properly updated, but it didn't show its stats until I'd bought it and had it in my inventory. Really small issue, but figured I'd mention it.







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JTGAlpha
Sat Apr 23, 2005 12:00 am
#26

I think, because DL-44's are, or were, at least, certed at like Pistol's 3 in Marksman line, it's sort of going down a bit. Bear in mind that this doesn't mean it's a less effective weapon, because you can't compare stats in the old system to stats in the new one at a 1:1. The best way to figure it out is to try and use it against things, especially as a novice level profession level.



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