Smuggler Archive
Thread: Stop Slicing?
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DrevenStrobe
Sat Feb 19, 2005 3:18 pm
#14
yimaz wrote:
Sadlymost people will just go to the WS/Smuggler vendors to buy weapons or a slicer looking to make a buck.But I do agree with the idea and will stop slicing for Bounty Hunters just on principle. I'm also re-thinking my position on Smugglers being added to the BH terminals at this point I want little or nothing to do with them.
Message Edited by yimaz on 02-19-2005 05:14 PM
Don't forget the idea of slicing the BH terms to remove Jedi from the list...
At this point, the only reason I'd want to slice a BH term is to ADD more Jedi...
I've got no use for either profession at this point, and I didn't think my loathing for Jedi could get any stronger...I was wrong...
mrbleepbleep
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:24 pm
#15
There would be many smugglers who'd never even heard of the strike, doing business as usual - maybe even still at 100 credits per %... I'd support it in a heartbeat if I thought it would work, but I just don't see it happening.
dlc3007 wrote:
DigiDante wrote:
A good 1/2 of all crafters have a guildmate or an alt who is a slicer. Never will you be able to get all smugglers to stop slicing, like myself. I love to slice. I would not stop doing so.
I have to agree with you. I will, however, be upping my prices considerably if this stupid "fix" goes live.
In response to the second post, I've also upped my slicing prices. I used to charge 10k if the customer got the type of slice he wanted, no charge otherwise. Now I'm going for 10k flat fee, so I've doubled my prices on average. I don't especially like slicing, I never have, so if it's going to be one of the last things I have from my skill points in master smuggler, the public can either pay me well for it or find someone else.
JakobSunrunner
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:41 pm
#16
Well ..... im gonna up my prices a little.... and
hey guys you know what!
IF YOU SEE ANY BOUNTY HUNTER AND THEY ASK FOR SLICING EITHER TAKE IT AND NOT GIVE IT BACK OR EVEN BETTER PICK THE WRONG WIRE THAT WAY IT WONT BE SLICED EVER AGAIN!
mrbleepbleep
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:50 pm
#17
JakobSunrunner wrote:
Well ..... im gonna up my prices a little.... and
hey guys you know what!
IF YOU SEE ANY BOUNTY HUNTER AND THEY ASK FOR SLICING EITHER TAKE IT AND NOT GIVE IT BACK OR EVEN BETTER PICK THE WRONG WIRE THAT WAY IT WONT BE SLICED EVER AGAIN!
Taking an item for slicing and not giving it back is scamming, and it drags the whole profession into disrepute. As for picking the wrong wire - it's not scamming, but certainly won't give you a good rep. You may be angry now, but that bad rep might stick with you long after your anger fades.
JakobSunrunner
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:53 pm
#18
you know i couldnt care less if bounty hunter and jedi dont like me, but personnaly i have no ill will towards other pro's and that keeps me financialy fine.
anyway, were smugglers, were supposed to have bad reps
AngusMacGregor
Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:55 pm
#19
No offence, but this idea is kinda worthless. I'm a Master Smuggler who spends a lot of time in Coronet, I wear my Master Smuggler tag, and in the last month I've been asked to slice something for someone a total of two times. And one of those times I had to decline since I didn't have any tools on me. No need to carry them around if I rarely use them.
Most people these days are getting their stuff pre-sliced from vendors. Usually from Armorsmiths or Weaponsmiths who can slice their own stuff. So any "strike" on our part is futile.
Just my $.02
DigiDante
Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:39 pm
#20
mrbleepbleep wrote:There would be many smugglers who'd never even heard of the strike, doing business as usual - maybe even still at 100 credits per %... I'd support it in a heartbeat if I thought it would work, but I just don't see it happening.
dlc3007 wrote:
DigiDante wrote:
A good 1/2 of all crafters have a guildmate or an alt who is a slicer. Never will you be able to get all smugglers to stop slicing, like myself. I love to slice. I would not stop doing so.I have to agree with you. I will, however, be upping my prices considerably if this stupid "fix" goes live.
In response to the second post, I've also upped my slicing prices. I used to charge 10k if the customer got the type of slice he wanted, no charge otherwise. Now I'm going for 10k flat fee, so I've doubled my prices on average. I don't especially like slicing, I never have, so if it's going to be one of the last things I have from my skill points in master smuggler, the public can either pay me well for it or find someone else.
You mean there are still people charging a pricing scheme that is over 16 months old?!?!?!? ( 100cr/% )
Wow that is INSANE! I got my whole server to charge 10k per slice this time LAST YEAR!
SmugglinZane
Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:53 pm
#21
Even though I agree with a slice boycott (knowing that not everyone would participate), it would mean nothing as long as WS and AS have vendors full of sliced gear. The reason we don't get as many slice requests is because those guys either have Slicer to do it for themselves, or they contracted a Smuggler to slice a ton of stuff for them already. It would take at least a month for peeps to feel the effect, and that's only if you can get vendor item slicers to boycott as well. Either way, I'm in. I'm only slicing for friends, and people I think deserve it... and the random person, whether they ask for it or not, does not deserve it.
mrbleepbleep
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:07 pm
#22
I haven't seen anyonecharging that on Eclipse recently, butI saw a few not that long ago. Maybe 6 months ago, on Infinity, I met a master smuggler who charged 75 cr per %, and insisted that anything more was "greedy"! I didn't argue much (I wasn't a smuggler and wanted him to slice for me, so the low price was to my benefit), but I was stunned at how much he was underpricing his skills.
DigiDante wrote:
mrbleepbleep wrote:
There would be many smugglers who'd never even heard of the strike, doing business as usual - maybe even still at 100 credits per %... I'd support it in a heartbeat if I thought it would work, but I just don't see it happening.
dlc3007 wrote:
DigiDante wrote:
A good 1/2 of all crafters have a guildmate or an alt who is a slicer. Never will you be able to get all smugglers to stop slicing, like myself. I love to slice. I would not stop doing so.
I have to agree with you. I will, however, be upping my prices considerably if this stupid "fix" goes live.
In response to the second post, I've also upped my slicing prices. I used to charge 10k if the customer got the type of slice he wanted, no charge otherwise. Now I'm going for 10k flat fee, so I've doubled my prices on average. I don't especially like slicing, I never have, so if it's going to be one of the last things I have from my skill points in master smuggler, the public can either pay me well for it or find someone else.
You mean there are still people charging a pricing scheme that is over 16 months old?!?!?!? ( 100cr/% )
Wow that is INSANE! I got my whole server to charge 10k per slice this time LAST YEAR!
xTekx
Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:30 am
#23
DrevenStrobe wrote:
I'll point this out again, just like I've done every time a "strike" has been proposed.
The flaw in your logic is that you assume people actually **NEED** our services, which they don't.
Smugglers provide two services to the community at large: Spices and Slicing.
Spices can be pretty much forgotten about with the use of food and doc buffs, and they're not used that much anyway...so it wouldn't be a big deal if the spice flow suddenly stopped across the board.
Slicing is easily replaced by the use of powerups. Not only that, but there's enough WS / Smugglers or AS / Smugglers out there, or WS and AS with Smuggler alts, that sliced item vendors would still get stocked regardless.
Then there's the issue that there's no way in hell that you'd ever get 100% of the actual Smugglers, whose main accounts are Smugglers to go along with it. There would inevitably be the guys who raise their prices and keep slicing for the public just to make an extra cred or two.
So, while your heart may be in the right place. Putting it into effect would be pretty much impossible.
oh come on. don't rain on our grieving parade. 
if it makes us feel better to talk about i'm all for it. hehe
but seriously now.. my main is a smuggler. I don't sell FP. that's not my source of income. I do slice to the public though, so that would be my form of strike... but that's me. i like the idea of an afk macro when someone asks for a slice..
Kamileon
Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:32 am
#24
WilyWelshWeasel wrote:
yes let's stop ALL smuggler related events. Let's almost take ourselves out of the game. Given that Star Wars SHOULD have a large underworld element I'm sure we'd make out presence (or lack of) felt very quickly.
SHOULD being the operative word here. Should.
Given that it doesn't, really, if what it does have goes missing, will it actually be missed?
Aelik Orrigo: Smuggler, Pilot, and Ranger. Kettemoor
cpz
Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:43 am
#25
A mass protest is a nice idea, but this is the Smuggler forum.
If there'svery littlehonour amongst thieves, there's even less solidarity heh
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