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Thread: Another worthless chat...

SirhcAzub
Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:45 pm
#14

Yeah, doesn't seem like low CL players will have much fun on lava world... not a problem for me, but I have some friends who just started a month ago and have preordered already :\



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Sir'hc Azub
Master Bounty Hunter / Master Smuggler
Freelance Pilot 4-3-3-3
Tempestian since launch!

Currently looking for stuff to do. Hit me up on Tempest if you want, I'm open to suggestions.
Mystique2000uk
Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:11 am
#15

Oh they were all asking questions. Just none the DEV's were willing to answer. My guess would be the DEV's had told stratics that they would only asnswer questions about the expansion.



We're Charley Brown, the Dev's are lucy and the Smuggler revamp is the football.
Every time we think, this is the time were gona get to kick the football Lucy pulls it away at the last minute.



I only have one thing to say aauugghh!
Stawei_Idow
Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:37 am
#16


coldreboot wrote:

SirhcAzub wrote:
Yeah, doesn't seem like low CL players will have much fun on lava world... not a problem for me, but I have some friends who just started a month ago and have preordered already :\



To be fair, expansions by definition should assume you've played through 99% of the existing content. If there is any level 1 content at all (which there is), consider it a bonus.

They should be exploring the existing worlds before trying Mustafar or even Kashyykk, surely?




You should never assume...
Anyway, perhaps you are correct that before buying an expansion, you should have been in the game for a while and learned the intricacies.

It also has to do with marketing.
They have stated several times that there will be plenty of things for low CL players to do.

I was not in beta, so I have no idea what is where, but they haven't given much info about what there really is for those lower CL players.

They are saying that it's mostly higher CL content, but by saying there's plenty for everyone they make it sound like there will be more to do than probably is.

Being able to get this chu cube at CL1 is fine, but not being able to obtain the loots for it to work means it's pointless.

So lets use me as an example.
I've been playing for over a year.
I have explored a lot of the game, but by no means 99% of it.
My original main was, until very recently, a master artisan, master architect, master merchant, and a little bit o' marksman, which made him about CL 10-12.
My other characters are a master smuggler/bh, and a master sw, pilot, working through merchant, and a bit o' marksman.
I could do some content with the smuggler/bh, but while that was my main for a while, the revamp is not looking supersweet and I've been doing a lot of pilot and RE'ing lately.
So what reason do I have to buy this expansion.
Personally, I see none.

Some of us are lower CL by choice because we don't care about fotm or being ub3rjed1.
Obviously we are now in the minority, but alienating a non-trivial portion of the playerbase is not a good move.

If SOE drives everyone to jedi, then the new players will not be able to get there.
Fewer 'other' professions mean less content, exploration, and harder leveling because of lack of available weapons, armor, resources, foods, and the rest of the things a player needs to get to the higher CL levels. And what is available will become more expensive.




Bug fixes. Heh! Smuggling. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things.

My SWG Observations

If they stopped the expansions for one year and gave quality revamps to the professions that need it most, many people would resubscribe.
With all the resubs, and the new players, there would then be plenty of money to hire enough people to do 2-4 quality revamps per year plus 1-2 larger expansions per year and/or 2-4 smaller expansions per year, and not give the BigWigs a pay cut. (Possibly even an increase)

lurdanta
Fri Oct 21, 2005 7:00 am
#17



coldreboot wrote:


SirhcAzub wrote:
Yeah, doesn't seem like low CL players will have much fun on lava world... not a problem for me, but I have some friends who just started a month ago and have preordered already :\



To be fair, expansions by definition should assume you've played through 99% of the existing content. If there is any level 1 content at all (which there is), consider it a bonus.

They should be exploring the existing worlds before trying Mustafar or even Kashyykk, surely?






You assume that CL1 means you are a new player to the game. Some people are CL1 by choice, such as crafters, but then again it's pretty clear crafters and all non-combat professions are slowly being written out of the game, so it's understandable they are not given any reason to benefit from the expansion.

PersianLegionary654
Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:52 am
#18









Sprite - *Redemption* Whats that whole deal with the HK-47 on Mustafar?

Peahi - *Redemption* HK-47 was an intriguing character you may recognize from KOTOR.


Yes, he was great.

Peahi - As with many Star Wars games, we really like to blend the fiction whenever possible,


As with many dumb people, we think bringing in a good character from something else will make up for theborked gameplay and multitude of bugs we are introducing.



Peahi - as long as it fits with the canon. HK-47 will provide some exciting new quests and


Canonically, it is realistic a robot survived for 4000 years on a lava world who's heat can melt metal.



Peahi - story arcs for players who choose to seek him out.


And who slog through the pathetic gameplay.









A rollback is coming, perhaps. We can't be sure, and the mods totally deny it, but IMO, that makes it all the more likely. Hang in there, it could come at any moment... All we've worked for may soon come to fruition...

-I support the firing of Julio Torres, out of a cannon, into the sun."
- I support keeping & balancing the original Pre-CU combat system
- I support not buying ToOW...and I was right about it
- I support anyone who stands against the implementation of the NGE
- I support being able to make jokes about Julio Torres.
Zeon_Zaku
Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:03 am
#19

I went to the chat, and asked a few questions. Though none of them were submitted.
Sadly, it was mainly two people who kept getting their questions repeatedly answered. And, as you can see, a lot of the questions where the same thing. And what good questions there where, the Devs just bumbled around them and didn't answer them at all.





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