Smuggler Archive
Thread: and tiggs wrote......
yimaz wrote:
Oh and for the record this was not to dig at tiggs she is just doing her job, it was more directed at SOE for handing us the same excuses month after month year after year.
If she had posted the information here in this forum then fine - but she didn't, that's my beef - we shouldn't have to find out we've been misled again by reading the information in another forum.
Mallecho wrote:
dlc3007 wrote:
but what about the fact that Tiggs (and other red names) "doing her job" amounts to nothing but lying to our faces? The fact that it is "her job" excuses that?
I'm sorry, but I don't buy it. I don't lie to my clients about the work they need me to do for them.
There is a difference though.
YOU aren't going to fire YOU. Your clients can.
WE can't fire Tiggs, only SOE can fire Tiggs...ergo Tiggs is responsible to THEM not to US. THEY are responsible to their stockholders, not to us...in fact, no one is really beholden to us in this process.
Tiggs is handed an "official" line from SOE, and her job is to communicate that official statement to the community. If Tiggs were to go over someone's head at SOE and report unofficial stuff, I'm fairly certain we wouldn't be able to dig or not dig the Tiggs, cause she'd be unemployed.
I've walked off of jobs that asked me to do something I didn't agree with. If Tiggs doesn't agree with what she's being asked to do......
Daturaze wrote:
yimaz wrote:
Oh and for the record this was not to dig at tiggs she is just doing her job, it was more directed at SOE for handing us the same excuses month after month year after year.
If she had posted the information here in this forum then fine - but she didn't, that's my beef - we shouldn't have to find out we've been misled again by reading the information in another forum.
QFE..
Fernas wrote:
I've walked off of jobs that asked me to do something I didn't agree with. If Tiggs doesn't agree with what she's being asked to do......
as have i. i believe Veela referred to the dev team as "spineless". her words not mine, but ban me if you wish. i fear not the ban.
Easier said than done. I too have (thankfully) been able to walk when circumstances dictated. Unfortunately, I have also been in positions where I had to compromise or sacrificemy convictions in order topreserve thethings that are most important to me.Principle doesn't pay the bills, nor does it feed hungry mouths. Remember: Not everyone has the luxury of being able to follow their convictions.
For all we know, Tiggs fights like hell for the community behind closed doors, but must sing the party line in public in order to keep her job. I have also been in that position myself. Itbecomes a case of the ends justifying the means. I have worked for an unscrupulous employer who demanded lies and deception...onissues far more important than a video game.I stayed aroundas long as I could to try and do as much as I could to make things right.In the end, Ibelievethe result of my effortsfar outweighed the loss of respect and credibility I suffered. My priciples became a casualty as I battled forsomething bigger than myself. Ironically, those who benefited most from my efforts only saw me "singing the party line" and many of them were the ones who were (and still are)my strongest critics.
I (nor anyone here) have no idea what Tigg's personal or professional situation is,but given my own experiencesI wouldcaution folks againsttossing aroundterms like "spinelsss".
Again, I am not taking Tiggs' side, just trying to put a little perspective on this. I think we can all agree that we are not dealing in absolutes where we have a clear picture of the entire situation...so let's at least try to keep the "personal" out of it.
Message Edited by Guamarhea on 07-27-2005 03:10 PM
LaughingWolf wrote:
Mmm you know guys, someone ask Tiggs how the announcement about the Valerian new quests was fitting into the "new features being put off to long term developpement" thing. Tiggs answered "The announcement you are referring to is not from the Live teams content. It does mesh with new features being moved out to a longer term."
Soooo I wonder if we will see our Smuggling stuff coming from that "not Live content team" Tiggs mentionned.
Oh and I love the Anti-Semantism sig.
Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 07-27-2005 12:19 PM
I have a feeling this is some form of the Jedi mind trick.
"We will not be implementing any new content."
"What about this new content you're implementing."
"That's not new content."
"Yes it is."
::waves hand:: "That's not new content."
"That's not new content"
::waves hand:: "The CU is good."
"The CU is good."
::waves hand:: "You like the new slicing system."
"What are you? Nuts!?"
And TH wrote...
Thunderheart wrote:
AynenAmolen and Dession: That is correct. For the next few publishes, we will be doing smaller publishes that focus on bugs and issues.
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Smugglers still can't smuggle.
Since release. Since PRE-release. Since...
Mission terminals, space quests, slicing mini-game, bounty hunters.. the pieces are all out there, just put them together for us! Give me a reason to use my YT-1300 and give me a chance to be interdicted and fight or evade detection with a secret compartment.. And the new loot system is horrible. I was optimistic at first, but the fact that the components don't stack, the rarity of the high end items (ICB, Mandalorian Intraframes, etc.) is insulting.
Tiggs wrote:
We are currently focusing on fixing what is currently broke. New features will be move out to a longer term implementation.
Tiggs wrote:
I didn't say it wasn't postponed either. All I said is right now the Live team is focusing on fixing what is broken and new features will be moved out to a long term implementation.
Tiggs wrote:
The entire team cares very much about you the customers and the game. The game is constantly evolving and we need to focus our energy on bug fixes and making the game more fun for a wider audience. That includes the present audience in that. We want to have more players for you to play with and I am sure you want that also. With this comes reducing the scope of our publishes so that we can make sure that publishes are cleaner. This doesn't mean that there won't be changes to professions or other content, it just means that bigger things are pushed out and given the time to be worked on that they deserve.
WOW I think Tiggs has missed her calling in life...with the ability to say so little with so many words she should have been a politican........sorry no offence ment to our politicians in the SWG world 
you know..these people at SOE appear to be very bright. they have to know that a bullsh1t answer like the ones we're just being spoonfed are only going to p1ss us off even more.
nobody can be that blind to how the community is reacting.
Tiggs and Kurt 'Thunderheart' Stangl could not Communinty Relations their way out of a paper bag
Look at why the Veterans are leaving. it has more to do with alienation and lack of information than any missing Smuggler content. And that is Comms territory. So I pray that those Smugglers who stay remember that it isn't, and never was, solely about smuggling.
It was about the game having a 'plan', sticking to that 'plan' and involving the playerbase in that 'plan'.
Just a damn shame that nothing here ever suggested to me tha tthe 'plan' actually existed.
What Plan?
Okoh wrote:
Just a damn shame that nothing here ever suggested to me tha tthe 'plan' actually existed.
dlc3007 wrote:
LaughingWolf wrote:
Soooo I wonder if we will see our Smuggling stuff coming from that "not Live content team" Tiggs mentionned.
You're joking, right?
Let's say I was being a weee bit sarcastic. lol (Thought the wink conveyed that, but true that without tone of voice it is kinda hard.) I CAN be obtimistic true, and I figure we will get one day some kind of Smuggling system (wich will be very likely 1- very different from the old In Concept thread and 2- will please half of the Smuggler community and piss off the other.) But my quoted comment was sarcastic.
I agree with yimaz tho, shooting the messenger would serve no purpose.
ner0sputnik wrote:
LaughingWolf wrote:
Mmm you know guys, someone ask Tiggs how the announcement about the Valerian new quests was fitting into the "new features being put off to long term developpement" thing. Tiggs answered "The announcement you are referring to is not from the Live teams content. It does mesh with new features being moved out to a longer term."
Soooo I wonder if we will see our Smuggling stuff coming from that "not Live content team" Tiggs mentionned.
Oh and I love the Anti-Semantism sig.Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 07-27-2005 12:19 PM
I have a feeling this is some form of the Jedi mind trick."We will not be implementing any new content."
"What about this new content you're implementing."
"That's not new content."
"Yes it is."
::waves hand:: "That's not new content."
"That's not new content"
::waves hand:: "The CU is good."
"The CU is good."
::waves hand:: "You like the new slicing system."
"What are you? Nuts!?"
rflmao Exactly