Smuggler Archive
Thread: Patch notes: fixed Feign Death
Sakura-Ikari
Mon Apr 18, 2005 6:01 pm
#14
ok got attacked by a level 14 critter (i'm 32)
i failed to FD the first time i tried (which by the way you get KD'd when you fail to FD very annoying)
but i finally had one sucessful FD (which is giving me this opportunity to post)
lokidevil
Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:31 am
#15
Just tried it out in PvP and it doesnt work.
I tried a few times with other people and I failed most of the times which I'm ok with since it would be to "Ub3r" if it worked all the time BUT the bit that got me was when it said "You have succesfully Feign Deathed" and I thought "sweet" as the 3 Imps beating me senseless would have to leave me alone......... But nothing happended. I didn't hit the ground and they didnt stop hitting me. I hit FD again and it just kept saying I failed.
It was awful, They hit me so hard then even after I died my body stood up and puked the Neutron Pixie up before I was sent to the cloner.
I tried a few times with other people and I failed most of the times which I'm ok with since it would be to "Ub3r" if it worked all the time BUT the bit that got me was when it said "You have succesfully Feign Deathed" and I thought "sweet" as the 3 Imps beating me senseless would have to leave me alone......... But nothing happended. I didn't hit the ground and they didnt stop hitting me. I hit FD again and it just kept saying I failed.
It was awful, They hit me so hard then even after I died my body stood up and puked the Neutron Pixie up before I was sent to the cloner.
Sakura-Ikari
Tue Apr 19, 2005 7:50 am
#16
jimbothefirst wrote:
I tried FD on test first time I failed, I'm master smuggler, when it failed it was like i got knocked down i had to stand up be the gurk kept hitting me. The next time I got the message i was too tired because my action was low I guess I think it was about 20% but if this is how it works I think it wont be as usefgull if you havce to do it with a good amount of action left. Also because the ham display seems to be not updating fast enough its hard to tell exactly where you are in health and action for using last ditch, and if you use it too soon it doesnt do much damage and seems like it takes forever to recharge. some sort of a display would be nice kinda like what the psg has or a crafting tool icon with the countdown timer. The "you need to wait a little longer" message doesnt cut it
Akab
Kettemoor
yeah the ham bar lag is a huge issue and I hope when that is improved we will better be able to tell if and how FD is actually working. FD has been my lifeline for a long time (in PvE - i dont' PvP) so it will definitely be something i'm keeping a close eye on
maxtheusher
Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:02 am
#17
FD seems to fail if you use it while moving. also, any attempt to perform any action, even touching the movement keys, pulls you out of it. so it's a lot touchier then it used to be, you kind of have to stop, hit feign, and wait and see if it works.
What I'm wondering is, since you become unattackable in PVP when you feign, maybe it's somewhat equal to death. maybe a jedi that feigns during a bounty will be, for the purposes of the mission, dead? That'd be a good solution lol.
Also, in a related note, Last Ditch doesn't actually hurt your opponent, or at least it didnt for me. I hit Kendrick for over 4000, his bugged tkm armor absorbed all but 1000, and his Health didn't move a bit.
What I'm wondering is, since you become unattackable in PVP when you feign, maybe it's somewhat equal to death. maybe a jedi that feigns during a bounty will be, for the purposes of the mission, dead? That'd be a good solution lol.
Also, in a related note, Last Ditch doesn't actually hurt your opponent, or at least it didnt for me. I hit Kendrick for over 4000, his bugged tkm armor absorbed all but 1000, and his Health didn't move a bit.
Ackehece
Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:20 am
#18
Smuggler_Caylin wrote:
Does posture up take a person out of feign death? I'm unable to test at this moment but the developers seemed to be very fond of that approach in the past as a counter.
yes
startle shot does this.
er well startle shot was supposed to do this T_T
Message Edited by Ackehece on 04-19-2005 10:45 PM
Sakura-Ikari
Tue Apr 19, 2005 8:45 am
#19
maxtheusher wrote:
FD seems to fail if you use it while moving. also, any attempt to perform any action, even touching the movement keys, pulls you out of it. so it's a lot touchier then it used to be, you kind of have to stop, hit feign, and wait and see if it works.
heh - i wasn't moving any of the times i failed i haven't even remotely gotten comfy enough with the new combat system to attempt to start kiting anything yet LOL.
from what i had heard it does a check against your level versus the creatures level to decide if you pass or fail - but i think it is really borked right now. I mean, if i get attacked by an NPC Rebel commandant and he is smart enough to check my pulse and i fail to FD that is reasonable. But a gurk whelp? 
atone48732
Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:00 am
#21
hmm.. when I first got FD it used to fail for me all the time.. but recently its saved my butt more times then I can count lol...
I haven't tested it yet as a master smuggler though.. so we'll see
GanymedePharuu
Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:26 am
#22
maxtheusher wrote:
FD seems to fail if you use it while moving. also, any attempt to perform any action, even touching the movement keys, pulls you out of it. so it's a lot touchier then it used to be, you kind of have to stop, hit feign, and wait and see if it works.
What I'm wondering is, since you become unattackable in PVP when you feign, maybe it's somewhat equal to death. maybe a jedi that feigns during a bounty will be, for the purposes of the mission, dead? That'd be a good solution lol.
Also, in a related note, Last Ditch doesn't actually hurt your opponent, or at least it didnt for me. I hit Kendrick for over 4000, his bugged tkm armor absorbed all but 1000, and his Health didn't move a bit.
yeah about Last Ditch... ackib and i tried that one out a bunch and we got the same results. ackib posted about this a little bit further up the page...
anyway we had similar results of a hit number, usually -3510, floating above ackib's head in yellow after i tried it, but no health was taken off his Health bar. and each time i used Last Ditch it incapped ME!!!
only one time were we able to see any health cut off of his Health bar.
something is wrong with Last Ditch.
atone48732
Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:53 am
#23
Not sure on that.. I haven't used last ditch yet.. maybe I'l have to give it a try
SpinningCloud
Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:11 pm
#24
Fixed FD?
I just a few hours ago used FD against a level 78 Valarian Compound Guard.
It stood over me with it's pistol aimed at my head until I stood up. I don't think it was 'fooled' for one instant as it didn't wander away.
Ackehece
Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:46 pm
#25
SpinningCloud wrote:
Fixed FD?
I just a few hours ago used FD against a level 78 Valarian Compound Guard.
It stood over me with it's pistol aimed at my head until I stood up. I don't think it was 'fooled' for one instant as it didn't wander away.
Smarter then the average AI? or did you fall int feign at his anchor point?
NyghtsSecond
Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:53 pm
#26
Ackehece wrote:
Smarter then the average AI? or did you fall int feign at his anchor point?
Pretty sure they don't drop hate. To test, I have had multiple mobs tied down (Rooted as my hobbity druid would say..gawd I hate that) and feign with another melee'ing with me. When the root breaks, the rooted mob walks over. So that kinda indicates hate is retained and they know where you are.
Perhaps yet another timer is needed? Ifyoustay down for a minute or more, the hate list clears? Good plan?