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Thread: Old Smugglie PETITION: BRING BACK SLICING ITEM BREAKAGE!

AngusMacGregor
Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:16 am
#14

Tomo, I really hoping that you have Wes' back in the Coro forum about this stuff. We need all the help we can get.




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AngusMacGregor
Thu Jun 23, 2005 4:58 am
#15






AngusMacGregor wrote:
Tomo, I really hoping that you have Wes' back in the Coro forum about this stuff. We need all the help we can get.






Where did this idiot learn grammar? His teachers should be shot, hanged, then fed to wild boars. I can't believe someone like this squeaked through the school system. I tell ya, this is exactly why...... oh..... waitaminute....



Damn, I really need to make some coffee...



Never mind!





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IndySWG
Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:02 am
#16

/sign


There must be RISK involved in deciding to get your gear ILEGALLY modified.


JUST ONCE ... live up to the promises you've been feeding us for 2 years?





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Jaguarrr
Thu Jun 23, 2005 6:09 am
#17

Do you REALY have to ask?



YAY for jamming weapons!





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Zeon_Zaku
Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:42 am
#18

I'll sign. This was something needed to bring people back to us, and give us more business.

But there is a down-side to breakage. This also stops people from coming to us for slices in the first place, because simply the slices we give now aren't worth the risk of an expensive weapon breaking. So I only see two options: increase the amount we can slice on a weapon (up to 50% perhaps), or remove breakage (and increase slice amount a little).



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Thomen
Thu Jun 23, 2005 8:59 am
#19

/sign

even if it wont help to bring it back. The whole thing of the removal sounded more that they removed it because they were unable (not that its something new) to fix the condition on the sliced weps after breakage and repair from a smuggler.



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atone48732
Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:14 am
#20

/sign







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Saarek
Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:22 am
#21






TomoRainer wrote:





AngusMacGregor wrote:

/sign



And all the opinions posted above about why it was removed are entirely speculation, since the Devs have not seen fit to actually communicate to us why it was done.









That's what I was wondering.

I support this thread, though. The notion of (fully reparable) breakage as a result of sliced gear is exactly the kind of consequences we've been asking for to our "risky" and "illegal" activities for a very long time now.





Well, true - partially.


The types of consequences I am looking for is to be arrested or fined if I'm spamming SLICING WEAPONS or something anywhere near a factional NPC. I want us and our customers to be searched by Crackdown NPCs inside a city's limits and slightly rarer in the wild. I want even us to be occaisionally caught with spices and sliced weapons. I was the slices to be removed or the weapon to be "disabled" if contraband is found. Then have to take my weapon to a smuggler for the slice reapplied or a weaponsmith if its been disabled.


That is what I want when it comes to sliced goods and reprocussions to the "illegality" of it all... meerely making a weapon "out of tune" is not a reprocussion of illegality, its a reprocussion of an overly modded weapon.







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atone48732
Thu Jun 23, 2005 10:35 am
#22

now that would be interesting saarak... I'd like to see that.. or somethin similar



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bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
Taln2
Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:01 pm
#23







TomoRainer wrote:
Can someone give us a rundown on exactly what happened with the removal? I know how it was supposed to work and how it was working (or not working, as it happened) when it first hit TC, but what's up now? Was there a dev note that it's been removed? If not, how do we know it wasn't just changed to how it was supposed to work--breakage every couple weeks, not every couple shots?

I ain't down with it being removed, but I'm having a hard time finding the particulars here.




From what I understood, on TC, sliced weapons were jamming every 6-12 shots. This could be a bug with the system or developer handled acceleration of the jamming process that might've taken afew days normally.The developers didn't say one way or the other, they just took it down earlier today.


I'm fairly optimistic that it will be reimplemented with a fix, although since the devs are being talkative as usual about the subject*, I have doubt.




* sarcasm.

Message Edited by Taln2 on 06-23-2005 03:02 AM



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Utuski
Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:03 pm
#24


rundown..


basicly they found a bug they knew they couldnt fix before there planned launch date so instead of putting off the smuggler new slicing system for 2-3 more publishs they took out the weapon break for now so they can still push the new slicing system live on time


the bug was when an item breaks it drops to 0 condition making it useless untell the weapon is fixed but when a smuggler fixed the weapon the item was considered fixed but it didnt go back to its previous stats.

Message Edited by Utuski on 06-23-2005 12:05 AM



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RDX1
Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:05 pm
#25

It was removed because there was an issue getting it to break properly, on TC it broke after 20 shots. The devs thought it would be easier to remove it then to fix it. (They haven't said this, we all know it to be true.)

Now, I am 50/50 on this. On the one hand, it brings risk to the customer and return business to the Smuggler. On the other hand, it disabled the weapon in fights, but a lot of us carry multiple weapons..

I'm a bit urked that it was removed, but it won't phase me too much.



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justapilgrim
Thu Jun 23, 2005 12:09 pm
#26

can you bring something back that never made it into live?


shouldn't this be a "put it into live petition" not a "bring it back" petition


just a thought




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