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Thread: How much should i charge for slicing?

necromorteus
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:03 am
#14

Wow I must be doing somthing wrong I only charge a flat 4k per level of the slice, and EVERYBODY that has inquiered has told me no thanks ill se if i can get someone else to do it.



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hemlock555
Fri Sep 09, 2005 6:48 am
#15

I'm charging 500k for a full 100% slice.
Normally: Full Speed or Full Dmg +1speed +1crit

And I do a LOT of business. I also have a rather large collection of components.



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BloodMonk
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:44 am
#16

slicing got f-d up imo...



armour break is a necesity in pvp, but totally unaffordable,


1.6mil for a layered suit


1.5m mil for slices



thats 3.1mil for a suit that's gone in 1 or 2 weeks



I don't think I can afford playing this game anymore


and it's both the retards that ask 300K for paddings, as the smugglers charging even 10k for any lvl 1 slice that are messing the whole thing up.


it sucks to bea smuggler now......




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YerocRolyat
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:06 am
#17

as much as you phuckin can bro, a 'smuggler's has gotta make some money, and i heard they are removing smuggling from the game.



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groundcrew
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:46 am
#18






sanct_squadleader wrote:

I was a smuggler pre cu and recently respecced back to master smuggler, It is so different now with how slicing works. I was wondering how much to charge for the slices, do you charge more per each level of slice? do you charge more for the armor break slices? and so on. Any information will be greatly appreciated thanks. Also how much are the slicing components worth?




I'd say charge what you want. Heck i'dstickBH for every credit they have seeing how much they charge for Smuggler items!




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ordio
Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:56 am
#19

This is how i charge...

Before Pub (BH loot revamp), i was charging a base of 2000/customization %... So a full 100% customization would cost 200k... Esp before, the ICB's were becoming RARE... i gave a deal on the charge, and gave very little mark up on the ICB that i ended up buying for him... 2.75 mil... just for the icb... so i just rounded it to 3 mil in total...


After the pub change, i charge 1000 credits/customization %... This seems to work well.

I also charge for all the items (except for simple toolkits... those are cheap, not that rare, and i have a stack of 250 anyway... i don't care to charge for that)...


If they bring their own items, then i obviously don't charge for the items, but my slicing charge...


Its all in your knowledge of slicing... if you know what you are talking about, and if it looks good and what they pretty much want, they will get you to do the slicing.. i've had repeat business because i stock all the items (much easier to hold up 9 slots in your backpack than having to run to the bank to get the items), and because i check and make sure the slice is working out.

Eg: Level 3 dmg, level 1 speed, level 1 crit (the most popular) - 100k (plus icb cost.. and most of them have their own icb anyway)..

Level 3 Ab + level 1 add hardening + level 1 improve impact: 400k/piece (7 pieces).. 100k (slicing) + 200K (shock) + 100k (reactive) x 7 = 2.8 mil...


The shock pricing has gone up due to the rareity of the item, and that i had a lot of requests for that specific slice...


I hope this helps in your determination on what to do.. i've done this pricing since july, the slicing revamp...



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lanei
Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:10 am
#20

this is how i do buisness, for 100% weapon slices i charge 350k, for 100% armor slices (with the exception on f AB) i charge 350k, for AB slices i charge 700k. on average i charge about 15-20% more then the components cost on average through vendor search, if one brings me the tools required i charge 5k per slice I also have an e-mail that if requested tells of all the slicing components and %ages of slices. this is the most fair way of pricing slices i could think of.


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BloodMonk
Fri Sep 09, 2005 10:58 am
#21

mm just charging 100K excluding components is a bit of a rip off for something that takes 30s to do imo...


money hungry people are making this game impossible to play for casual players....no way I can afford to spend 5+ million eveyr 2-3 weeks on armour + slices





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The_Old_Ferenczy
Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:40 pm
#22



1st off...slicing isa luxury, not a nessesity.


That said said...many will tell ya price low.....some will say price high...


pros and cons...


Low Prices: More biz, using more components(meaning you have to buy/find more ..more often), less profit


High Prices: Less biz, use fewer componets, high profit.


Now take the avg smuggler...less they've been round forever...are gonna be out at a starport..spamming slicing offers...may make (if they keep at it)...100K to 1 mill...but they use a lot of their in-game time doing this, probrably know just enough about slicing...to push the right buttons, and have to answer countless questions...that any buyer...should have researched when looking for a product.


On the other hand ..the high-priced smuggler...is he expensive..hell yes!!...but there has to be a reason...or why wouldn't anyone do.


Well...here a few things to think about..


When ya looking at the enhanced FWG:

1-Do you know what the damage cap is?

2-Do you know if ya customer is near their speed cap?

3-Are you able to make a recommendation as to ...what may be best slice for a particular weapon?


Many players don't know these things..and assume hey..I'll damage slice this 2 million cred weapon...not realizing that it wont have any or very little effect....and now the customer is looking at ya all strange...wondering what the hell ya did wrong or if ya trying to cheat them.


Sure...you can claim you did what he asked...but that ain't gonna change the fact ..you screwed up and now he cant get a proper slice for that weapon.


I make anywhere from 10-20 mill per week if I'm in a slicing mood.


Do my customers complain ..i jacked their weapon...no...


But they do complain..."Well i know this guy...he only charges 10K!!" My response is great...go find him...have a nice day.


The worst mistake i think a smuggler can make is to lower his prices...if you lower them once..you'll lower them again...set a price..and stick with it...


If ya want to charge less ..go ahead....you'll be spending ya profits on new parts constantly...and other profit-encroaching duties.


I would suggest having a price-list..but as I find out on occasion...they never bother to read it....no matter..I can sell a 2 million credit, 100% customized enhanced FWG just as easily..if they back out the deal.


I get told...I can't expect my customers to read my price list and that is a crock...


You dont walk into a restaurant in Hollywood and order the best meal...without looking at a menu..or do ya?


On a final note....everyone should know the meaning of the word....cumalative

Message Edited by The_Old_Ferenczy on 09-09-2005 03:46 PM



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BloodMonk
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:10 pm
#23

ok.. I'll start by telling you I was a smuggler just about the whole time I played swg, up untill my return 3 weeks.. the reason I dropped it is because the faction bizz has gone to hell for me (the changed right before the curb killed me), and because the reason I'm back is mainly pvp...which brings met to your 1st point


1st off...slicing isa luxury, not a nessesity.


well I wish it was, unfortunatly it's a necesity to pvp if you don't want to get hit for a minimum of 800 damage each hit due to armourbrake




On the other hand ..the high-priced smuggler...is he expensive..hell yes!!...but there has to be a reason...or why wouldn't anyone do.


Well...here a few things to think about..


When ya looking at the enhanced FWG:

1-Do you know what the damage cap is?


Yes


2-Do you know if I am near their speed cap?


Yes


3-Are you able to make a recommendation as to ...what may be best slice for a particular weapon?


Yes, the smuggler slices how I tell him to end-of story, just like a crafter crafts my customs jobs EXATCLY like I tell him too, or I never deal with him again


I've been back for about 3 weeks but already I know the new system...but I do know a lot of people dont...


now, do I still think I smuggler who charges 100K for a AB III slice while I give him all the needed component is a rip-off artist? SURE AS HELL


do I still think people selling slicing components for rediculous prices are rip-off artist. SURE AS HELL, and tbh I hope the smugglers the buy em write down their name to repay the favour when they need slice


are you really?ok with people charging 50k for a component-free lvl 1 slice?



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Egrethico
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:27 pm
#24






The_Old_Ferenczy wrote:



1st off...slicing isa luxury, not a nessesity.


If ya want to charge less ..go ahead....you'll be spending ya profits on new parts constantly...and other profit-encroaching duties.


I get told...I can't expect my customers to read my price list and that is a crock...


On a final note....everyone should know the meaning of the word....cumalative

Message Edited by The_Old_Ferenczy on 09-09-2005 03:46 PM



Great points! I have actually had the word 'cumulative' in my price list for awhile now, and I wonder if the big word scares away potential clients. That, or they're too lazy to /examine. I like to charge for each level of slice, weapons only, starting 10k, 20k, 30k, then 40k to finish (20k,30k,50k on dmg). So if they understand the meaning of cumulative, they'll see that a 100% slice costs 100k. I think this is a reasonable price rate. And I may actually slice for free at times if the client has all of the components, simply because I would like the same courtesy.



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Egrethico
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:31 pm
#25

double post

Message Edited by Egrethico on 09-09-2005 02:34 PM



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The_Old_Ferenczy
Fri Sep 09, 2005 2:42 pm
#26


Heheh...aye Bloodmonk...I see ya point..but still it is a luxury.


And unlike you...many dont know the caps or even have an inkling there are any to begin with.


As for a recommendation...that is service...if you insist on a useless slice..I'll sell ya a useless slice...but one can not say they werent warned or informed.


As for pricing of a Level 1 component free slice...sure..i can feel perfectly content charging 50K or more...this gives you a reason to go to cheaper smuggler...find a better deal...not send me endless tells and and have 30 minutes worth of questions about slicing...that would take ya 5 min to read if you happeded to have read the slicing FAQ i sent along with my prices.


Take a look on the trade forums...things aint exactly cheap...and smugglers can choose how rich or poor to be.


If every smuggler charged a flat fee of 500K per slice/level...not even a full slice...would it be payed..yes..


Reason...becuase that's what we say is the price...


I can't tell aChef,Shipwrightor any other provider of goods/services what to sell his goods for...nor can anyone do the same to me.


Entertainers have begged for viable ways to make cash...and sure they get good tips...sometimes...but they have the ability to set a cover now...if they choose not to...then why whine about not making cash.


I'll be the 1st to tell ya I'm greedy, expensive, and down-right scum...


I AM A SMUGGLER...


...or atleastSOEs versionof one.


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Message Edited by The_Old_Ferenczy on 09-09-2005 04:51 PM



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