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Thread: Feign-in

Chavabegga
Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:33 pm
#14

I agree with Yimaz and I agree with Caylin. A Feign-In will accomplish nothing and probably cause more problems then it fixes. There is no time to fix smuggler right now.

However, Yimaz has a very valid pt about communication. They really do a horrible job in that regard. Instead of saying "we can't do what we said we would do" they say nothing.




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Smuggler_Caylin
Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:51 pm
#15






yimaz wrote:

/bow


Caylin I have to ask....Why wont anyone, at the most tell us this so the in fighting can stop. You have to agree that this post would have never happened if it was not for the lack of communication from the Dev's after they said this would change. Again for me this is not about the re-vamp I know that wont happen for some time, its about the "we are going to"....then it stopsattidude twords the community that has me upset.







They have some really strict rules about what they tell the community. Even when people such as TH want to tell us something, they are held back by company policies they are unable to go against...


Company policies that I personally believe are causing them more grief and problems than they apparently understand. Remember that the SWG development team is only a part of SOE...


They are so cautious of telling us things in fear that once they do, we will crucify them if they are unable to get them working as they intended. You have to admit there is some truth to that.


I personally think if they just told us, up front, why they couldn't do what they said... without it looking like a coverup... that they would get a ton of support and patience from the community.


I won't try to justify their actions too much, as alot of it really ticks me off as some of you may have seen in other posts... and I will admit I've been treading on thin ice with them for a while.


GreenMarine has been nothing but 100% in my brief interactions with him. I really believe he is the real deal, and will be able to help our profession in outstanding ways. While it is dissapointing that he was unable to get back to us about the Underworld post, he may have had to clear it with the higher-ups... and we all know how those things don't always go as quickly as we would like.


GM hasn't posted or been on the forums since the 29th, so it's isn't as if he is ignoring us. I think other things came up, a prolonged vacation or something else and they just haven't told us for whatever reason. I'll keep my remaining faith in GreenMarine, he hasbeen outstanding so far. So lets cut him some slack.


Message Edited by Smuggler_Caylin on 07-10-2004 02:52 PM



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RylanStorm
Sat Jul 10, 2004 2:58 pm
#16


"Rylan you have always had the sourest attitude out of all the smugglers I talk to.


It burns my eyes reading the posts you write. You do more harm for the community then help."


With all due respect Digidante that's absolute rubbish.


I've spent entires days of my life thinking about, and writing about, this profession. I've seen dozens of 5 star awards for my work, including the ones that Ive received today for saying what I believe needs to be said. There are many people on this board who are becoming acerbic now, after what is months and months of lies. SOE have been lying to me now for the past 6 years. I assure you this will be the last game of theirs I show any interest in.


If you want to talk about sour I suggest you look at some of the goodbye posts we've seen on this board. Many of them far sourer then mine andmany of them justified. That being said, if you don't like me and my stuff, take a ticket, and move along.


When I said the first revamp would be a mere shadow of what we wanted the profession to be I was accused of being negative. When I said hte revamp would be delayed I was told I was pessimistic. When I said the second revampwould be delayed I was scorned on, and last week when I said our communication had fallen by the wayside I was told I was being unduly concerned and they would be back to us very soon.


It is the continued excusal of the developers wanton neglect that has harmed this community; people like you saying we should just keep waiting. You want your profession fixed, you want it to be fun, challenging and rewarding. And you completely refuse to do absoloutley anything about it.


I'm not suggesting a feign-in anywhere. I think it's futile. We'll simply feign and no developer will see, let alone care. I'm not proposing a petition either since that accomplishes nothing. I am simply suggesting we stand together as a community and say


"No more excuses. You promise us communication and you need to deliver"





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yimaz
Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:09 am
#17

I hate to say it but it might be time to start planning a feign-in at our server's Theed Star Port. It is a simple plan, every smuggler meets in theed on what ever day and time we all agree will work. We /duel each other then feign. It would be a sea of Feigned Smugglers for all the world to see. I really did not want to go to this level but we have been a more then understanding community for far to long. It worked for the wookiee's, problem is though, we know and expect our revamp to be pushed backso if we did this what would we want to get out of it, true communitcation, Bug/text fix's, even just some answers...what? Or we wait on this untill after JTL if we are not the first revamp they do. I dont know, Im just really peeved off about the same old attidude that are taking with us. Even if we all just have the Feign-in idea in our heads for now. Dont know.....



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DigiDante
Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:51 am
#18

I've always thought this was a retarded way to get things done.



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Hobbs_Nguyen
Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:53 am
#19

So what does that say abou the devs when such methods prove effective?



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DigiDante
Sun Jul 11, 2004 12:58 am
#20

It says that they have to stop what they are doing to assist a group of idiots who are impatient.



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Sheeana Secundus - Respec Jedi - Elder Carbineer @ heart.
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Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
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