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Thread: Is this the beginning?

MaxSteele
Fri Sep 03, 2004 2:39 pm
#14






cranford wrote:

The concern that I may have would not be offering the stuff to you vendor so much as getting it back. If you were to charge say 25k for the job and put the pack on the vendor for the person to pick up, but let's say it is a suit of the best stun armor out there that they paid 400k for. What would stop me from buying that off of your vendor for 25k and the original player is now out that 400k suit of armor? This would be my biggest concern doing it this way although I like the logic behind it of having a drop off so to speak for the jobs.


Can anyone think of a way around someone else buying the finished job or getting it back to the correct customer that is more efficient or safer?







Yeah, every bag gets a unique label, like e23od1a (you just make it up). Then you email the person whose item it is the unique number.


Then you put a bunch of bags up on your vendor with different names (owl23ka, wks174dn, etc... ) and you price them at 50k , 75k, 93k, etc...


So you only have a couple of bags up with the real merchandise in it, and the other bags are empty.





Evarn Terallis - Master Smuggler on Kettemoor

There are missions in which you "deliver an item while hostiles attack you" in every profession. I still don't consider [Smuggler's Alliance] pilots to be Smugglers, nor 'Smuggling' - at least not any more than Rebel Pilots or Imperial Pilots might sometimes "smuggle", with a lower-case s - JFreeman - 10/6/04
Capt_Baobab
Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:42 pm
#15

me, i'm staying smuggler. when JTL comes about, i'm going to see how far up the shipwright and starship designer tree i can go. if i can't slice the ship parts, then i can sell them the ships... and the players that can afford the bajillion cred buffs/weapons/armor will be paying me the big bux.... either way, i win.



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Nicolas_Frost
Fri Sep 03, 2004 11:47 pm
#16






MaxSteele wrote:





cranford wrote:

The concern that I may have would not be offering the stuff to you vendor so much as getting it back. If you were to charge say 25k for the job and put the pack on the vendor for the person to pick up, but let's say it is a suit of the best stun armor out there that they paid 400k for. What would stop me from buying that off of your vendor for 25k and the original player is now out that 400k suit of armor? This would be my biggest concern doing it this way although I like the logic behind it of having a drop off so to speak for the jobs.


Can anyone think of a way around someone else buying the finished job or getting it back to the correct customer that is more efficient or safer?







Yeah, every bag gets a unique label, like e23od1a (you just make it up). Then you email the person whose item it is the unique number.


Then you put a bunch of bags up on your vendor with different names (owl23ka, wks174dn, etc... ) and you price them at 50k , 75k, 93k, etc...


So you only have a couple of bags up with the real merchandise in it, and the other bags are empty.







You can tell if a bag on a vendor has items in it or not. The way to make sure about such things, would be to put complete junk in the worthless bags, make them all yourself, and rename them once they automaticly drop off the vendor.


That, plus, set an admission fee to the building at fifty grand(current max entry fee, if I remember correctly), and add only those who actually have slice jobs for you to the entry lists to bypass the entry fee.


Then, add in this to keep people from buying other peoples armor and using it, then returning it(I know this happens*). If they try to return it for the price they paid, don't accept it through the vendor, force them to put it all in a trade window to see if its been used, if so, do not accept it. They basicly stole the merchandise,remove them from the entrylists toyour buildings(in case they try this again, so they'll spend fifty grand to get back in), /denyservice so they can no longer use your vendors(so if they do spend fifty grand, they just wasted it, since they can't use the vendors), and do your best to appease the customer who lost the armor, even if it means reimbursing the armor/weapon cost.


By the way, I do like the idea for the packs with serial number type names. In opposition to my previous idea about renaming the packs, here's another idea. Keep atleast 20 packs with items in them, and if five packs have armor, then 15of the packs on the vendor should be distraction packs(9-10 junk items), along with however many you have the real armor in. Now, lets say people drop some armor off to be sliced. Take one of the fake packs, remove the junk from it, and put the sliced armor in it. That way, you don't have to keep renaming the packs, just cycling which ones actually have goods in them


*I have an ArmorSmith friend who was using the pickup vendor system, people would buy other people's armor packs off his vendor, using them for a few days, and returning them. Needless to say, professional pride won't let him sell armor like that to someone who ordered it.




Jaecob Maragi
Babelonian Militia Captain
Master Smuggler and Alliance Pilot
Captain of the LongShot(2)
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The prices of my services are based on "tolerance". The more I have to tolerate you, the more you have to pay me.


Nicolas_Frost
Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:12 am
#17

Yeah, I tried to set up a Smuggler's Network on Lowca.Chat.smg but barely anyone seemed interested in joining, or thought I was trying to get them to join a PA...


Basicly, all I was doing was running a chatroom where I'd help novices, have a line for people to find Smugglers, particularly those who specialize in certain aspects(Faction sales, spices, slicing), as well as a place to keep a list of good Smugglers & Customers and ones who've been blacklisted.


Didn't work, so now I just use it as my own personal chatroom, and let people I slice for know its the easiestway to contact me, or a few other Smugglers, and avoids tell hell.



Jaecob Maragi
Babelonian Militia Captain
Master Smuggler and Alliance Pilot
Captain of the LongShot(2)
THE Official Smuggler Forum Smartass!
The prices of my services are based on "tolerance". The more I have to tolerate you, the more you have to pay me.


KefkaQ
Sat Sep 04, 2004 1:30 am
#18



cranford wrote:
Hello All,
I am currently working up to be a Master Smuggler along with my current TKM profession. I have seen some of this on Corbantis. I am still low in the profession, only 0/2/0/0 but climbing on up there. I guess I am fairly lucky in the regards that I only had about a day or two to use the auto-pull ability for sclicing so I was not as hard hit but it is more of a pain none the less.
I am excited about being a Smugger. There are not many around that I see anyways, so to me it's like being in an elite club of sorts.. rare sights and profit.
Jus so that I can start working on pricing and being inline with everyone, what do people normally charge for sclices. I have heard some say an amount per percentage point, some are a flat fee, etc. Just trying to get a good idea of the best used method so once I start, I'll be ready.
I also like using my Lekku language... LOL it can be fun around the coronet startport with fellow Twi'Leks and Smugglers alike. Make fun of those less fortunate to have a private language. Could this possibly be used for smuggling, I mean a language that few can hear. Of course this would be more of a roleplaying aspect possibly.







I would adore you if you used Lekku with me, lol. I'm been running around as 'rogue' the past few days in order to get things done without tons of /tells being sent my way. I understand what the old timers mean, now! I've had my Master title a little under a week and I get tells up the hoo-hah. I guess either the Masters are taking breaks, hiding like me, or they really are in short supply o_O I've got my pricing macros and stuff set up now, so the next time I log on I'll put up my true calling again



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Imperiai2
Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:55 pm
#19

I would like it I guess if all the 'slicers' quit the prof and left it with mostly masters. It'd be rad to set up a network of say, the 15 oldest masters on a galaxy and they would hang out and stuff. A nice thing would be for them to add Sabacc to the game, and you could actually play your buddies for credits... All the smugglers would like each other, but would easily stiff the next guy for the quickest profit, and do it with a smile. That would just be so cool. I could totally see Han locking one of his pals in a closet because he just heard there was a job to pull and whoever got there first would get it...



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