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Thread: HoC SWG Chat log

Ternque01
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:28 am
#170






cpz wrote:





Tiggs wrote:





cpz wrote:


Typical



Tiggs fliles in here, answers some fluff, posts a nice big smiley, then runs off into the wilderness


How about, Tiggs, you stand up and show us your metal.



I challenge you to come here and answer the real questions your community would like to see answered. I lay the gauntlett down. Live up to your title and prove yourself to be a real Director of Community Relations, rather than the semi-skimmed diet Fluff poster some of us believe you to be.





I have not run off into the wilderness and I am here answering questions that were posted. I answer what I know is solid bring back information to the team from all communities.







Okay Tiggs


Many players feel marginalised by the direction the game has taken over the last few months. These fans are largely Original Trilogy fans who tend to migrate towards the more RP professions - Smuggler, Ranger, Squal Leader- despite not necessarily being heavy RP players. These players reject the notion of the Jedi grind as the centerpiece of the game, and favour a more canon verison of the game, with the Galactic Civil War being the centerpiece, as in the OT movies. These players believe they and their professions are being neglected by the Development Team and by the Community Relations Team, with the Jedi grind and Prequel-orientated content have the main focus, as is indicated by the ROTW and TOW expansions. These players, many of them veterans, are leaving in droves.


Now show us your mettle, prove yourself worthy of the Director tag you wear:



  • Have the Producers been made aware of this swell of attitude?

  • If so, what are their plans for addressing the concerns?

  • If not, why not?

Three simple questions to which I think we deserve honest and open answers.







This is the best I have EVER heard my position represented, and I believe this is also the position of a GREAT number of SWG's subscribers.


In all honesty, if this game ever wishes to be #1 of all of the MMO's, these are they questions they need to find solutions for. EVERY Star Wars fan would pick up a copy of the game, instead of every Star Wars fan dropping it.


There is no better way I have seen it put, cpz. This is how things are for many subscribers.





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The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
Chemistrius
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:28 am
#171



GanymedePharuu wrote:


Chemistrius wrote:
Jedi only got 1 publish, not 2. Pub 9 was for jedi, pub 10 was for non jedi who wanted to become jedi. Jedi got didly squat in pub 10.

Having gotten that out of the way, the only profession to date to get 2 publishes is Droid Engineer, and look where it got them.




well when you add up all the parts of other publishes, jedi have gotten probably 3!


Are you referring to the truckload of nerfs that got dumped on them or the handful of actual bug fixes? I can't think of a single actual enhancement (other than the adk's being able to be applied to sabers) that jedi have received since P9.

Then again, you can viably argue that a profession revamp IS getting a bunch of nerfs, cus thats how it normally works out after all the new flavor has worn off.



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Kelko
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:36 am
#172






Tiggs wrote:





gassygunslinger wrote:
I will give them one more chance... If the "special surprises" up their sleaves are good enough, I'll buy it and continue Star Wars Galaxies for as long as it takes me to get bored with it. In the incredibly unlikely (more like impossible) chance that the devs pull out the dead animalsthatscratched their ways infrom thier @sses, andcreate smuggling, that is WORTHWHILE... I will play for a while longer. But Ihave to admit, I am glad that the jedi don't get their FRS! Nowthey feelaslight .01% of what we feel, and the crap we get (and its enough to make them whine).





"Special surprises" are fun! =)





You mean like the special surprise that we got fron JFreeman telling us we are not getting a revamp after being promised it for the last two years?


Oh yah, that was a big, hot steaming pile of fun for the Smuggler profession.


Message Edited by Kelko on 08-26-2005 01:46 PM



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SmugglerPie
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:40 am
#173

My rectal region is still sore from the last little "special surprise" SOE gave us.



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Orange-Lazarus
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:46 am
#174

Try this next time should help with the pain



Orange Died 17-10-2005 May She Rest in Peace
SmugglerPie
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:48 am
#175

Tell SOE that. They molestered me.



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Kelko
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:48 am
#176






Chemistrius wrote:





GanymedePharuu wrote:





Chemistrius wrote:
Jedi only got 1 publish, not 2. Pub 9 was for jedi, pub 10 was for non jedi who wanted to become jedi. Jedi got didly squat in pub 10.

Having gotten that out of the way, the only profession to date to get 2 publishes is Droid Engineer, and look where it got them.






well when you add up all the parts of other publishes, jedi have gotten probably 3!




Are you referring to the truckload of nerfs that got dumped on them or the handful of actual bug fixes? I can't think of a single actual enhancement (other than the adk's being able to be applied to sabers) that jedi have received since P9.

Then again, you can viably argue that a profession revamp IS getting a bunch of nerfs, cus thats how it normally works out after all the new flavor has worn off.




Hmmm..


If that's the case then no one would mind if the Devs went back to permadeath for the Jedi? Or maybe the Holo grind?





SWG+PUB 19+CU+NGE = Crap
Tante
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:49 am
#177



Orange-Lazarus wrote:
Try this next time should help with the pain



Nope that does not help. Developer honesty and fixes for regular professions would help.



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Orange-Lazarus
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:50 am
#178






Kelko wrote:





Chemistrius wrote:





GanymedePharuu wrote:





Chemistrius wrote:
Jedi only got 1 publish, not 2. Pub 9 was for jedi, pub 10 was for non jedi who wanted to become jedi. Jedi got didly squat in pub 10.

Having gotten that out of the way, the only profession to date to get 2 publishes is Droid Engineer, and look where it got them.






well when you add up all the parts of other publishes, jedi have gotten probably 3!




Are you referring to the truckload of nerfs that got dumped on them or the handful of actual bug fixes? I can't think of a single actual enhancement (other than the adk's being able to be applied to sabers) that jedi have received since P9.

Then again, you can viably argue that a profession revamp IS getting a bunch of nerfs, cus thats how it normally works out after all the new flavor has worn off.




Hmmm..


If that's the case then no one would mind if the Devs went back to permadeath for the Jedi? Or maybe the Holo grind?







yeh if i could kill 20+ people solo likepre pub 9 times



Orange Died 17-10-2005 May She Rest in Peace
from_beyond
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:50 am
#179

Orange-Lazarus, could you please do one of two thing, as a favor, to us? One stop pushing the jedi agenda in here and sucking up. Veela original message was so well written and touching in the simplicity of its point that it nearly made me cry at the end. Then you coming in and chopping it up and responding when it wasn't even directed at you tainted the purity of it. So please, stop.


Two, if you want to be taken seriously at all, can you PLEASE add the 'y' and the 'o' to 'you'? Please? I know the english language is difficult at time, but its just TWO letters. Typing them takes fractions of a second and will prevent you from annoying people who actually enjoy intelligent conversation as opposed to lazy jebay leet-speak. If you can't accomidate me and the rest of the smuggler community by attempting those two small favors then let me repeat:


"Quiet jedi. Grownups are talking."




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Kelko
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:53 am
#180






Orange-Lazarus wrote:





Kelko wrote:





Chemistrius wrote:





GanymedePharuu wrote:





Chemistrius wrote:
Jedi only got 1 publish, not 2. Pub 9 was for jedi, pub 10 was for non jedi who wanted to become jedi. Jedi got didly squat in pub 10.

Having gotten that out of the way, the only profession to date to get 2 publishes is Droid Engineer, and look where it got them.






well when you add up all the parts of other publishes, jedi have gotten probably 3!




Are you referring to the truckload of nerfs that got dumped on them or the handful of actual bug fixes? I can't think of a single actual enhancement (other than the adk's being able to be applied to sabers) that jedi have received since P9.

Then again, you can viably argue that a profession revamp IS getting a bunch of nerfs, cus thats how it normally works out after all the new flavor has worn off.




Hmmm..


If that's the case then no one would mind if the Devs went back to permadeath for the Jedi? Or maybe the Holo grind?







yeh if i could kill 20+ people solo likepre pub 9 times




You can, just go to Kash....




SWG+PUB 19+CU+NGE = Crap
Orange-Lazarus
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:56 am
#181






Tante wrote:





Orange-Lazarus wrote:
Try this next time should help with the pain





Nope that does not help. Developer honesty and fixes for regular professions would help.





dont understand why they sont have a small team on ever prof say like 5 ot 6 dev's that would post here get idea and make smugglers how u want


same with all the crafting profs why can we get new clothes makeup hair for ID armor, weapons ecteach patch 2 or 3 differant iteam each patch would make people stay and have more confidence in the dev team





Orange Died 17-10-2005 May She Rest in Peace
RichardBryant
Fri Aug 26, 2005 10:58 am
#182

The Players Who Suit MUDS article is interesting based on SWG experience.

Once, the Killers were BHs while Jedi were Achievers. However, the rewards for becoming Jedi (with no real downside) have skewed that so that now almost all Achievers and Killers are taking one single profession route.

LA/SOE need to think hard about this. Very hard.




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