Smuggler Archive
Thread: Help out Thunderheart Poll on Slicing experimentation
electricnomad
Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:52 pm
#131
RaiCella wrote:
I'd really like to know how many of the "B" people are master smugglers or just slice 4 multi-classers (weaponsmiths?).
Why would a Master Smuggler want to change a system that actually works as intended, and that gives a clear advantage to Masters?
I can see why a weaponsmith/slicer would want this, but not why anyone who commits fullyto this profession would.
Not flamming/trolling here, just really curious.
I'm a Master Smuggler and my vote was for B. I think a Master should still get a clear bonus, hands down. But I think a Slicer should have a chance to stay competitive due to resource investment.
Here's how I'd hope to see it happen:
- Master Smuggler with best resources v. Slicer with best resources => Master dominates
- Master with great resources v. Slicer with best resources => Master has slight edge
- Master with average resources v. Slicer with best resources => Even matchup
- Master with below average resources v. Slicer with best resources => Slicer has slight edge
- Master with poor resources v. Slicer with best resources => Slicer has moderate edge
Now, that could be tweaked a bit, but that's the sort of thing I'd hope for. You shouldn't automatically be a second-class citizen if you're a Slicer - a Master Smuggler should have to do something other than invest skillpoints to be thebetterperformer. I'd like to reward Slicers that want to push the envelope to compete with lazy Master Smugglers. It seems fair to me.
TempleSacrosanct
Thu Jan 29, 2004 2:59 pm
#132
B
We are a hybrid class. like it or not, I have a whole bunch of high quality Copper, Radioactive and water that I just dont want to use for slicing or spicing. why? because its a waste of resources. Sometimes when I would find High quality resources,I would try then to trade it off (with my friends) for lesser stuff.Imagine that.
In the current system, laziness pays much better then hard work. This offends me more then if they made the quality reqs Conductivity for clamps, shock resistance for PLKsand OQ for AUKs and WUKs (hint, hint 
)
)Another master smuggler voting B because I like all aspects of my profession (that is I will when Underworld gets the evade scan mods) 
Roadego
Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:06 pm
#134
This isn't about being a hybrid class. I know one weapon (i knwo theres others) right off hand, then tangle pistol, that takes master artisan components and the quality on the non-weaponsmith made component has absolutely no bearing. Should this be changed as well? How many smuggler\smiths would like that idea? This is just like wuks and auks. We don't make these and have no control over these unless we are also novice smith\master artisans since auks and wuks use general crafting experimentation. you also can't see how high they were experimented up by /examine......you have to just take the smiths word for it. And this right here is my main problem with it.
Ragnaat
Thu Jan 29, 2004 3:12 pm
#135
please folks try keep the debate in the debate thread
and for those who haven't voted yet see the discussion in the debate thread before voting
And just to vote again - This Master says A
and for those who haven't voted yet see the discussion in the debate thread before voting
And just to vote again - This Master says A
Jabourn
Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:35 am
#142
A
I don't want more work than I already have in game, it's already starting to feel like a second job, and that's not what I play SWG for, and it's not why I signed up for smuggler.
BadSectorUK
Fri Jan 30, 2004 1:46 am
#143
Update, up to and including Jabourn:
A B
1. Crash013 DrevenStrobe
2. mrun21 Dinian
3. RatRock AngusMacGregor
4. MarcBulger IceMonkey05
5. Epitaxial EnosFiroken
6. Obed Osx
7. Gravesender Smuggler_Caylin
8. Shufti MasterKadanne
9. Pvt Rasha
10. Tharavan SanTsu
11. Jatet BaiGou
12. clayrekk Soyel
13. JChace029 jessedredd
14. onedozer tadpoleStillwater
15. Swindle2k5 Solo4114
16. Undefeated pyclone
17. Canillius Ashiani
18. Ragnaat ForumBrdr091870
19. Gknee CrazyBoarder
20. Vipossk CraftMule
21. Shazeen Brashaun
22. Speero TRDB
23. JohboBocal JediKozel
24. AudioOrganic SkunkWerkz
25. death69 Star_Ranger
26. Sowsky Nerfhizzerder
27. Whiteness Magui
28. tsivozi Dijen
29. TheWok SBRDOC
30. JarganScott AntiXryst
31. Morthon electricnomad
32. Thothren pervel
33. TheSmokey bigmacdaddy12
34. Heorot wroberts
35. chown2 cshawny
36. ThomSolo ewokkillah
37. GreatSalis Lannageyy
38. bpphantom vanguardistaken
39. Dunlop TheKeshik
40. NastyYak sk8ercool8
41. Daneis_Nuenii JWing
42. Rebelmundy Scrapdog
43. Wale evetsleep
44. ChrystalRhayne fishbrains
45. Flitred Ipseck
46. JediArashi smugglinmolson
47. spacemonkey1036 Olos_CH
48. RaiCella KirithSarin
49. Kav Yeebus
50. VooDoo27 BigAke
51. Vangreal Stockbridgel10
52. MondorBloodthirsty Zabas
53. VegitoX Larn_Runner
54. zajuc Lithrac
55. Sethech Lako
56. Jabourn EcadMistflier
57. Patina
58. huuh
59. Ivann
60. rexan
61. Ceroshin
62. BadSectorUK
63. Dragnam
64. Escag
65. Sarcastic_Slacker
66. Malveus
1. Crash013 DrevenStrobe
2. mrun21 Dinian
3. RatRock AngusMacGregor
4. MarcBulger IceMonkey05
5. Epitaxial EnosFiroken
6. Obed Osx
7. Gravesender Smuggler_Caylin
8. Shufti MasterKadanne
9. Pvt Rasha
10. Tharavan SanTsu
11. Jatet BaiGou
12. clayrekk Soyel
13. JChace029 jessedredd
14. onedozer tadpoleStillwater
15. Swindle2k5 Solo4114
16. Undefeated pyclone
17. Canillius Ashiani
18. Ragnaat ForumBrdr091870
19. Gknee CrazyBoarder
20. Vipossk CraftMule
21. Shazeen Brashaun
22. Speero TRDB
23. JohboBocal JediKozel
24. AudioOrganic SkunkWerkz
25. death69 Star_Ranger
26. Sowsky Nerfhizzerder
27. Whiteness Magui
28. tsivozi Dijen
29. TheWok SBRDOC
30. JarganScott AntiXryst
31. Morthon electricnomad
32. Thothren pervel
33. TheSmokey bigmacdaddy12
34. Heorot wroberts
35. chown2 cshawny
36. ThomSolo ewokkillah
37. GreatSalis Lannageyy
38. bpphantom vanguardistaken
39. Dunlop TheKeshik
40. NastyYak sk8ercool8
41. Daneis_Nuenii JWing
42. Rebelmundy Scrapdog
43. Wale evetsleep
44. ChrystalRhayne fishbrains
45. Flitred Ipseck
46. JediArashi smugglinmolson
47. spacemonkey1036 Olos_CH
48. RaiCella KirithSarin
49. Kav Yeebus
50. VooDoo27 BigAke
51. Vangreal Stockbridgel10
52. MondorBloodthirsty Zabas
53. VegitoX Larn_Runner
54. zajuc Lithrac
55. Sethech Lako
56. Jabourn EcadMistflier
57. Patina
58. huuh
59. Ivann
60. rexan
61. Ceroshin
62. BadSectorUK
63. Dragnam
64. Escag
65. Sarcastic_Slacker
66. Malveus