Smuggler Archive

I posted this in the expansions forum too, lol.

Maybe we'll get stunned beyond belief with:

Smuggler revamp (coupled like they did the CU with RoTW):

An underworld expansion with
the fabled Jabba's casino
The Kessel run idea whatshisname came up with that the dev's seemed a bit interested in
Smuggler styled / POB ships (i.e; YT-2000 and YT-2400, etc)
Nar Shadda or Smugglers Run

All rolled into one big fat package.

Its unbelievably naive and rediculously hoping against hope, but hey, if there are any of us that have been here for as long as we have, we've been clinging to hope for a LONG time anyways. Maybe I'm just delirious with it

Message Edited by Turd_Ferguson523 on 05-18-2005 01:16 AM

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WesBelden wrote:
All quiet on the Western front

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something WILL happen right wes

you wont let me down wes

will you

WILL YOU?

its coming rihgt? you know about this...tell me...TELL ME

Same as before.....a whole lot of nothin!!!

The scary thing is I think someone stole GM's access to the boards. He hasn't posted since Nov 2004.

Maybe they have him locked in a cave working on us Smugglers....

/realitycheck

oh sorry.. I'm awake now..

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HaughtyElf wrote:

The scary thing is I think someone stole GM's access to the boards. He hasn't posted since Nov 2004.

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He has posted since then, just not in places you can see . And from what I hear from people that've talked to him at the SW Celebration get together, he has been working on Smuggler stuff... I guess we'll just have to wait and see... again

They're settling the CURB and RotW stuff at the moment. That should be winding down soon so they can get back to profession revamps.

Wait and See... Seems to be SOE's motto right now.

Or is it Working as Intended?

You know what? If we can design the thing ourselves and save SOE the problem ofthinking ofsomething the community likes, it's to our benifit.

Hell you guys have been waiting so long it's a joke, but what would be better?

A revamp that is not what you want and is blagh

-OR-

A Revamp that is exactly what you want and takes SWG to the top of the MMORPG heap surpassing the bums like WOW and EQ 2.

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JTGAlpha wrote:

Heh. Yeah. Cuz we've never tried designing it ourselves.

Seriously, they've got all the ideas. And when it comes time to talk about it again I'm sure Wes will give them even more.

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Not just give em (1) ideas but design, (2) then build momentum, (3) Re-edit, clean up, and give them a almost finished product.

1- Yeah guys have given ideas but I'm talking about more. I'm saying we should give them an almost finished design.

2- I'm talking about getting every non-jedi we can behind this revamp, we need momentum that willinspire Sony's to take the ready made idea and code it.

3- Before we have them code it we need to clean it up, go over it a million times and then a million times again. This needs to be our second profession, our child, a loved one. We should tuck it in at night, feed it, burp it, and then stick to it.

Most importantly it has to be something every Smuggler (Well 80%) will support! Sure some people have come up with ideas but really were all smugglers with that idea? That's what is most important, us designing a system that has the concensous of the entire smuggler community.

If it's already been tried Do it again! Keep doing it until they are forced to take it! Failure is not an option, quitting is not an option, saying they wont listen is not an option, the only option is to move forward and get this done our way!

Hell if they can throw out that Composite MD combat system that I despised for 1 and a 1/2 years they could take a COMMUNITY based revamp.

Yeah, you don't understand. We done done all that. We've sent list after list after list. Some of them cohesive design plans. Some top ten issues. Some just handfuls of ideas. Some going line by line with GM telling him the problem as we've seen it. Trust me. It's been done. Caylin was hyperactive and sent many design doc plans for revamping us. One was 132 pages covering EVERY point that needed to be done complete with appendix.

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JTGAlpha wrote:
Yeah, you don't understand. We done done all that. We've sent list after list after list. Some of them cohesive design plans. Some top ten issues. Some just handfuls of ideas. Some going line by line with GM telling him the problem as we've seen it. Trust me. It's been done. Caylin was hyperactive and sent many design doc plans for revamping us. One was 132 pages covering EVERY point that needed to be done complete with appendix.

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No, we can't force their hand, and frankly, I'm not sure I want to. I'd like to see what they have, obviously but as long as there is work being done, I'm really happy with that because I DON'T wanna see a rushed, fatally flawed revamp ala the Imperial Letdown. Right now, the dev's have a "one thing at a time" policy. They talk about one major project at a time. You're not going to get anywhere pestering them like Jedi. Believe me, I've tried. We've used every tactic in the book on every issue. I'm not a Smuggling Horseman of the Apocolypse for nothin' you know. We've been over it and over it and over it and over it and over it. We've "alerted them" to our status more times than I care to count. They come in. They apologize. They promise, "just around the corner." Twice they tricked GM into coming in to work with us for a month before pulling him. TWICE. Seriously, it won't happen until it happens. It's supposed to happen after this expansion/CURB. That's rolled out. They're working out the bugs. They'll be moving on soon. If we're not high up in the batting order, don't worry, you'll see your mobilization. But there are times to wait and times to yell. This is wait time.