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Thread: Why we lost the Battle of the Crackdown

Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:16 pm
#118

Well that's just great...


Guess we will all have to blame it on Lodekdall now right?





The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

DrevenStrobe
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:17 pm
#119

*pops more popcorn and hands it out*






Dreven Strobe (Colonel) Tristyn Strobe
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"Everything I tell you is a lie. The truth is always bigger than the words we use to describe it."
JTGAlpha
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:18 pm
#120

I'm sorry, please, show me my illogic, and lack of forsight. Look here, chico:


"We cant be screwed out of smuggling from the Imp Crackdown becuase it has nothing to do with smuggling"


This is why I repeat myself SOOOO much in this debate. Because you NEVER listen and you NEVER learn.


1) This patch is not a "smuggling patch." Agreed. For about the ZILLIONTH time, but apparently it never sinks in or you never get tired of HEARING it.


2) It DOES have to do with smuggling. Contraband was instituted. As well as a means to evade the contraband. It was included in the Underworld Tree. In the SMUGGLER profession. So I guess it DOES have something to do with smuggling after all, huh?


3) Now this is where the causal chain begins, so if you can, TRY and pay attention. This system makes a very convenient base for building a system of REAL smuggling off of. You GOT THAT? Allow me to elaborate. I'll keep it simple and in small pieces, I know how you hate to read.


a) it offers, for the first time, a mechanic for illegality and consequence to contraband


b) we WILL be getting a revamp soon.


c) we've asking since beta for the abillity to smuggle


d) the devs like building off of current systems.


Can you argue that ANY of that is, if not "dead on balls" accurate, at least likely or probable?


4) IF this is true THEN (the most basic logical construct, thought you'd have recognized it by now) whatever system they build will have TWO automatic "backdoors" into it.


a) being a "high ranking" Imperial


b) owning lots of droids


5) Players like things that help them. They like things that make them money, save them money, get them power. The old axiom of the MMO business is "Players will take the road they percieve to be easiest to obtain the most power at the expense of everything including fun and immersion."


6) IF it's true that we get the abillity to smuggle, and it's all that we've dreamed of, the devs came through, huzzah huzzah, and it makes money and/or it's prohibitive for non-smugglers THEN people will use said back doors in number 4 (I know, refering back to a former point, now you have to RE-read, horror of horrors) because of number 5.


7) They won't want to give it up. Ever. The devs may or may not go to bat for us. You wanna bet they will? I don't.


8) It would have been easier and less painful for all if the contraband portion at least had been re-examined before being thrown out, in the context of whatever revamp we were getting, rather than hoping for the best, waiting and seeing, yadda yadda, yadda.


NOW. What part of that is fantasy? And PLEASE. Be specific and give real reasons. I know. It's a lot to read. But I think you can make it.




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Founders of Agrilatia in the Agrilat Swamps Of Corellia (Intrepid).
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Remember: SCUM does it dirty
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Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:18 pm
#121

You know Dreven, you sure make it hard for me to have a grudge against our new correspondent. /sigh



The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

SanTsu
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:19 pm
#122

I expect that he will have a short time in your good graces but as soon as things dont go the way you imagine he will start to feel the pressure of the pony crew. Unless he bribes you all with the chance to be assistant corrspondents. The I guess we will all get to blame you.



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Who needs hokey religions and ancient weapons just give me something to smuggle.
Ryutek
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:20 pm
#123






SanTsu wrote:

Yes I used to support the smuggler community and I tried to support everyone but now I not a correspondent and I dont have totake crap fromn ungratefulllouts like this group.


I misread your name and thought you were rylux coming back.









Ok let me rephrase.


The post you made in this thread was made after you were no longer a correspondent. I took offense to the statements made in a generalization, and at teh same time now view you as... well, I won't say as it is unappropriate for these boards. However, your comments were made AFTER you wer no longer a correspondent, and I am calling you on them.


Answers now please?


Or do you plan to just dodge them.


Either way is fine by me, I have my opinion formed. But at least honestly state whether you plan to answer my questions or not.


Also, the whole bit about not answering to anyone who isn't a Master, at least find out who you are dealing with before you insult them. That angered me further and is the sole reason I am pursuing calling you out on this.


Good Day.




Ryutek

Former Teräs Käsi Correspondent, Circa 08/2004 to 02/2005

No longer holding out hope, SWG will never be the game we fought so hard for, that we believed so much in. Farewell friends.



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Ryutek
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:21 pm
#124






DrevenStrobe wrote:

*pops more popcorn and hands it out*










Oooohhhh........


*looks innocently*


May I?




Ryutek

Former Teräs Käsi Correspondent, Circa 08/2004 to 02/2005

No longer holding out hope, SWG will never be the game we fought so hard for, that we believed so much in. Farewell friends.



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Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:21 pm
#125

Actually I turned that offer down SanTsu. So I can be an impartial pimple on the ass for all


I will however work with him and with all other smugglers to make this the best profession we can.


May I never lose the vigilance that has made me a poney rider, and may I continue to make a little bit less sense with every post I make to people with your mindset





The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:25 pm
#126

*scoops some up with both hands*


I better get it now before it's too late





The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

Ryutek
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:44 pm
#127






Ragnaat wrote:
I'd join ya but my stomach is already full of Synthsteak and Brandy

Ya'd think a wookie would have some extra space for some popcorn though

Ah, what the hell

*sticks his furry mits in the bowl and realizes wookies and buttery popcorn don't mix*

Sorry about the stray hairs all






*fwaps Ragnaat*


Now I gotta pick the hair out!!


*looks closer*


Never mind, I'll let Caylin get the top layer with the hair




Ryutek

Former Teräs Käsi Correspondent, Circa 08/2004 to 02/2005

No longer holding out hope, SWG will never be the game we fought so hard for, that we believed so much in. Farewell friends.



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JTGAlpha
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:45 pm
#128

Dammit. Right as I was about to get more popcorn, you gotta get it all hairy!



Dayasi Vo'Boda CEO of SCUM PA.
Founders of Agrilatia in the Agrilat Swamps Of Corellia (Intrepid).
Taking Scum and Villainy to a new Level to Serve YOU.
Remember: SCUM does it dirty
Another Horseman of the Smuggling Apocolypse

Smuggler_Caylin
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:47 pm
#129

*After snatching another handful of hairy popcorn, and begins coughing and choking to the side*



The Infamous Caylin Borealis - First Master Smuggler on Bria
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse!
:The Ghost with the Most:

Ryutek
Thu Feb 19, 2004 6:50 pm
#130

*whispers to Ragnaat*


Don't let Caylin know I left that part for him.





Ryutek

Former Teräs Käsi Correspondent, Circa 08/2004 to 02/2005

No longer holding out hope, SWG will never be the game we fought so hard for, that we believed so much in. Farewell friends.



[email protected]
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