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Thread: Another What's on Deck

SmugglinZane
Sun Nov 28, 2004 8:59 pm
#1

How can they not seethat how theycontinue to label space content creates a problem for the Smuggler profession. It does, I've posted responses to Tiggs' threads saying it does, and so have others. They continue to refer to SA pilots as smuggler pilots, even though they later refer to them as SA pilots. They need to be consistent with their distinction.I find it nauseating how they feel the need to refer to us as "ground Smugglers".


WE ARE THE ONLY SMUGGLERS, GROUND OR SPACE AND THE DEVS HAVE STATED SO IN THE PAST.


So anyone have a clue when they're gonna stop this game? They swore there would be a difference, and now the difference they are telling us it that if you're not an SA pilot, then you're not a smuggler. Capital S, lowercase s, it doesn't matter. Once again they're going back on what's been said.


Wes, I know you're a busy man on a different schedule then the rest of us, but I was just wondering if they've said anything to you about all this. They don't respond to our threads. They made their statement not too long ago about PMs, so they obviously want all their communication to go through locked threads, GAT posts, and correspondents. I know I'm not the only that feels this way judging by the feedback of others in recent days. Even if you can't get an answer, just let us know. Tell us you posted something in the secret squirrel forum and they gaffed it off. At least I know then that they plan on ignoring us forever.


Zane


PS- I'm not even ranting on the loot enhancers unveiled on Friday or the fact that the auto pull issue still hasn't been addressed.



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
HimFan
Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:12 pm
#2






SmugglinZane wrote:

How can they not seethat how theycontinue to label space content creates a problem for the Smuggler profession. It does, I've posted responses to Tiggs' threads saying it does, and so have others. They continue to refer to SA pilots as smuggler pilots, even though they later refer to them as SA pilots. They need to be consistent with their distinction.I find it nauseating how they feel the need to refer to us as "ground Smugglers".


WE ARE THE ONLY SMUGGLERS, GROUND OR SPACE AND THE DEVS HAVE STATED SO IN THE PAST.


So anyone have a clue when they're gonna stop this game? They swore there would be a difference, and now the difference they are telling us it that if you're not an SA pilot, then you're not a smuggler. Capital S, lowercase s, it doesn't matter. Once again they're going back on what's been said.


Wes, I know you're a busy man on a different schedule then the rest of us, but I was just wondering if they've said anything to you about all this. They don't respond to our threads. They made their statement not too long ago about PMs, so they obviously want all their communication to go through locked threads, GAT posts, and correspondents. I know I'm not the only that feels this way judging by the feedback of others in recent days. Even if you can't get an answer, just let us know. Tell us you posted something in the secret squirrel forum and they gaffed it off. At least I know then that they plan on ignoring us forever.


Zane


PS- I'm not even ranting on the loot enhancers unveiled on Friday or the fact that the auto pull issue still hasn't been addressed.






Its like being stricken of your title.



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01201986
Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:21 pm
#3

/agree



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SBRD0C
Sun Nov 28, 2004 10:33 pm
#4

I'm just waiting for someone to tell me that I can't smuggle cause I'm a Rebel Pilot...


I'll Have a fully Loaded Nova Courier to show him



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tiberius4327
Mon Nov 29, 2004 2:48 am
#5






HimFan wrote:





SmugglinZane wrote:

How can they not seethat how theycontinue to label space content creates a problem for the Smuggler profession. It does, I've posted responses to Tiggs' threads saying it does, and so have others. They continue to refer to SA pilots as smuggler pilots, even though they later refer to them as SA pilots. They need to be consistent with their distinction.I find it nauseating how they feel the need to refer to us as "ground Smugglers".


WE ARE THE ONLY SMUGGLERS, GROUND OR SPACE AND THE DEVS HAVE STATED SO IN THE PAST.


So anyone have a clue when they're gonna stop this game? They swore there would be a difference, and now the difference they are telling us it that if you're not an SA pilot, then you're not a smuggler. Capital S, lowercase s, it doesn't matter. Once again they're going back on what's been said.


Wes, I know you're a busy man on a different schedule then the rest of us, but I was just wondering if they've said anything to you about all this. They don't respond to our threads. They made their statement not too long ago about PMs, so they obviously want all their communication to go through locked threads, GAT posts, and correspondents. I know I'm not the only that feels this way judging by the feedback of others in recent days. Even if you can't get an answer, just let us know. Tell us you posted something in the secret squirrel forum and they gaffed it off. At least I know then that they plan on ignoring us forever.


Zane


PS- I'm not even ranting on the loot enhancers unveiled on Friday or the fact that the auto pull issue still hasn't been addressed.






Its like being stricken of your title.






Who ever said the smuggler revamp won't just be a name change?



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Boycarino
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:16 am
#6

Frustrating...



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Sengis
Tue Nov 30, 2004 1:28 am
#7

yeh they should change the name to master Not very useful




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DRWolfe
Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:01 am
#8

I said it before. The SA pilots will be the new Smuggler Profession, and the current Smugglers will be renamed to Pirates, the evidence is all around us.



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Shrendyc
Tue Nov 30, 2004 7:26 am
#9

The problem is how they have space set up in the first place. It was kinda stupid to have your faction have almost no impact on your choice of piloting line. As it stands now, all your faction does in space is make it impossible for you to work for the other team.


Seriously - who thought that being neutral, yet flying for the alliance, would have no bearing on your standing on the ground. I'm sure that the imperial troopers in Mos Espa, seeing you land your Xwing at the starport, would say "Hold on, fellas, he may blow up tie fighters in space, but on the ground, he's cool - really."


It's a giant freakin mess, and since the expansion has been released, its too late to make any of it make sense at all.


Neutral ships should have been usable by everyone. Factioned craftshould only be used by the people who belonged to that faction. That's the price of being neutral, and the perk of being a part of a faction. As a neutral, I can't use the "faction" pets, or wear the faction armor, etc...why should space be any different.


Much like Military personnel and civilians alike can own and operate civilian aircraft, but only the military pilots can use the blackhawk helicopters.


I am not suggesting that anything get taken away from anyone - the system is in place and we need to deal with it. But damn is it making life a lot harder than what it has to be.



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DRWolfe
Tue Nov 30, 2004 3:02 pm
#10


Daturaze wrote:


DRWolfe wrote:
I said it before. The SA pilots will be the new Smuggler Profession, and the current Smugglers will be renamed to Pirates, the evidence is all around us.


I'd be surprised if this happened to be honest.

What's easier :

A) Create an integrated privateer space/ground class and a new space/ground Pirate class OR
B) Continue to call the privateers in space "Smugglers" and do nothing for the existing Ground Smugglers.

Call me cynical - but I'm opting for "B"

Cheers
Dat




Well, as they seem to not even be able to put any text in the Master Smuggler skill box, it may be "B", but all they really have to do is put in the changes they have planned for the Combat Upgrade (or whatever they're calling it this week) for the current Smugglers, then change all the text in the skill boxes and such from "Smuggler" to "Pirate".

The problem with that is, Pirates are kind of a space profession too, and we'll all yell that there's no Pirate content and there's Pirate NPCs in JTL, why can't we Pirate stuff, and well... they just can't win.

Message Edited by DRWolfe on 11-30-2004 05:03 PM



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-Flufball-
Tue Nov 30, 2004 4:44 pm
#11

Well, as they seem to not even be able to put any text in the Master Smuggler skill box, it may be "B", but all they really have to do is put in the changes they have planned for the Combat Upgrade (or whatever they're calling it this week) for the current Smugglers, then change all the text in the skill boxes and such from "Smuggler" to "Pirate".

The problem with that is, Pirates are kind of a space profession too, and we'll all yell that there's no Pirate content and there's Pirate NPCs in JTL, why can't we Pirate stuff, and well... they just can't win.

Message Edited by DRWolfe on 11-30-2004 05:03 PM





Sure they can win, they just carry on ignoring us to the same extent that they currentaly are, and we keep on paying, thus they gain our money, that to me seems like them wining

Message Edited by -Flufball- on 11-30-2004 11:45 PM

MorphineOne
Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:37 am
#12






DRWolfe wrote:
I said it before. The SA pilots will be the new Smuggler Profession, and the current Smugglers will be renamed to Pirates, the evidence is all around us.






/agree








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Daturaze
Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:40 am
#13






DRWolfe wrote:
I said it before. The SA pilots will be the new Smuggler Profession, and the current Smugglers will be renamed to Pirates, the evidence is all around us.






I'd be surprised if this happened to be honest.


What's easier :


A) Create an integrated privateer space/ground class and a new space/ground Pirate class OR
B) Continue to call the privateers in space "Smugglers" and do nothing for the existing Ground Smugglers.


Call me cynical - but I'm opting for "B"


Cheers
Dat


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