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Thread: Gambling 101-Jubilee Wheel
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Ultron69
Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:13 am
#1
Since sabacc is not a recognized game by the Galactic Gaming Commision,I thought it might interest some here in the smuggler community how to play the Jubillee wheel located in most Hotels.
1.The wheel is basically the same as a rolute wheel in Casinos numbers 0 green and 00 green 1-36. With this in mind odds are 37 to 1 payout.With a total of 38 numbers to bet on.Max Bet per # 10000 cr .In Roulete normally 0 green and 00 green are House wins but not in SWG Jubilee you can bet them if you want too.
2.The System:Make Macros for placeing bets,you have 120 seconds to place your bets.Place Bets on 32 of the # out of the 38;Leaving your odds of loseing at 6 out of 38.If you win 7 times in a row you are playing on House money and the rest is profit..If you lose well win some lose some part of gambling.You can look at a Layout of a roulette table tospread your 6 numbers that you would lose on across the table.(may or not make a difference in this digital world).
3.If you were to bet make bet 10k per 32 # 's,wager would be 320k.If you win on 1 # payout would be 370k-your 320k wager =50k.So after 6.4 wins you are playing on "House Money",Paying you 50k every 120 secs or so.I have won and lost with this system you have to bet money to make money.
"WARNING"-Gambling can become addictive,please seek help if you have a Gambling addiction.
Sharkey Machine
Tempest
It ain't a crime if you don't get caught!
Jabourn
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:37 am
#2
I really suck at rl gambling, and one day I had this clever system worked out for the jubilee wheel where I was running at a profit...
Moral of the story is... I should have written down what I was doing; About a week later I went back and tried to do the same thing, and couldn't figure out what I'd done in the first place to save my life.
Someday I'll figure it out again, and make free credits rain from the sky into my bank account.
Mentski
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:17 pm
#3
Ive been playing about with this. lost a few rounds, won a few rounds, came out a good 500k better off before deciding not to get cocky.
Whatthat systemdoes gives you aprox 85% chance of winning 50k, but of course theres that 15% chance of losing 320k, which to be fair, certainly isnt bad odds.
in "perfect" 100 goes, that would work out as 4.25 million in probable winnings, versus 4.8 million in probable losses
But of course, we're all smugglers here, and we all the know the probability game isn't played that way, and a random number doesnt have any memory of its previous result... Or at least, It shouldn't. You never know though, all these wheels are run by Huttsor Valarian
Question is, Is the Jubilee wheel's RNG weighted in any way?
Does FS Luck have any bearing? (Only kidding!)
Is this topic going to be as hotly debated as slicing percentages?
rogue_eight
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:04 am
#5
I'm intrigued now 
Any chance of posting the macro? Go on, you know you want to
Any chance of posting the macro? Go on, you know you want to
Ultron69
Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:45 am
#6
Yes the Key to any Gambling is to be able to stop playing when ahead.With that in mind the macro goes as follows.I just Have mine Hotkeyd as I change up the numbers occasionally.
/bet 10000 X; (10k is max bet per # but you can make it any value under 10k depending on how much you wish to wager)
X=#
# to bet on are 0,00,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36.
If you make it into one macro you may have to put pauses in between,But remember the table only lets you have 120 seconds to bet.
Just pick 6 # you don't want to bet on,make macros for the rest.
If you can find a layout picture of a roulette wheel it should be the same,So you cansplit your 6 losing #'s across the wheel in stead of having them grouped together.(but might not make a difference).Enjoy
Sharkey Machine
Tempest
It ain't a crime if you don't get caught!
rogue_eight
Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:53 am
#7
/tiphat
Thank you, kind sir.
Mwahahahaha! Riches here I come
Failing that, the oblivion of bankruptcy and panhandling for change to feed my pixie habit...
Thank you, kind sir.
Mwahahahaha! Riches here I come
Failing that, the oblivion of bankruptcy and panhandling for change to feed my pixie habit...
Xerra
Tue Oct 11, 2005 5:39 am
#8
Great post. I dabbled with gambling in my early days on the server and feeling sh1t scared when i dropped 30k on 3 bets even/odd, red/black and high/low. Good fun and i think i made money most times. Now i'm a little richer i'm going to have a go at this too just for fun. Once i get the macros tuned i think i'll afk it for an hour and just leave it running and come back to see if i'm a rich man or i've dropped a few million, lol.
talansen
Tue Oct 11, 2005 11:59 am
#9
Any chance of you posting the macro once you get it tuned? I know, I'm too lazy for words....but I'll give you some beer and pie.
Xerra wrote:
Great post. I dabbled with gambling in my early days on the server and feeling sh1t scared when i dropped 30k on 3 bets even/odd, red/black and high/low. Good fun and i think i made money most times. Now i'm a little richer i'm going to have a go at this too just for fun. Once i get the macros tuned i think i'll afk it for an hour and just leave it running and come back to see if i'm a rich man or i've dropped a few million, lol.
DeijhaVhu
Tue Oct 11, 2005 1:16 pm
#10
So playing around yesterday I made the following macro:
/bet 10000 1;
/bet 10000 2;
/bet 10000 3;
/bet 10000 4;
/bet 10000 5;
/bet 10000 6;
/bet 10000 7;
/bet 10000 8;
/bet 10000 9;
/bet 10000 10;
/bet 10000 11;
/bet 10000 12;
/bet 10000 13;
/bet 10000 14;
/bet 10000 15;
/bet 10000 16;
/bet 10000 17;
/bet 10000 18;
/bet 10000 19;
/bet 10000 20;
/bet 10000 21;
/bet 10000 22;
/bet 10000 23;
/bet 10000 24;
/bet 10000 25;
/bet 10000 26;
/bet 10000 27;
/bet 10000 28;
/bet 10000 29;
/bet 10000 30;
/bet 10000 31;
/bet 10000 32;
/pause 160;
/ui action toolbarSlot00;
/bet 10000 1;
/bet 10000 2;
/bet 10000 3;
/bet 10000 4;
/bet 10000 5;
/bet 10000 6;
/bet 10000 7;
/bet 10000 8;
/bet 10000 9;
/bet 10000 10;
/bet 10000 11;
/bet 10000 12;
/bet 10000 13;
/bet 10000 14;
/bet 10000 15;
/bet 10000 16;
/bet 10000 17;
/bet 10000 18;
/bet 10000 19;
/bet 10000 20;
/bet 10000 21;
/bet 10000 22;
/bet 10000 23;
/bet 10000 24;
/bet 10000 25;
/bet 10000 26;
/bet 10000 27;
/bet 10000 28;
/bet 10000 29;
/bet 10000 30;
/bet 10000 31;
/bet 10000 32;
/pause 160;
/ui action toolbarSlot00;
I assign it to the first toolbar slot and then I just let him go for about an hour. At the end he was down 2mil so statistically it doesn'tbalance it out the way it should, or as is also very possible, I'm just that unlucky. What I found interesting wasthat one streak hit "00" 3 out of about 5 times..and twice in a row. So then I added 00 to the macro, it never hit 00 again.But then started hitting numbers above 32. So seems to me the wheel is stacked. That being said at one point I was up about 400k, but in the name of science I let the macro keep running.
Mentski
Tue Oct 11, 2005 2:52 pm
#11
DeijhaVhu wrote:
one streak hit "00" 3 out of about 5 times..and twice in a row. So then I added 00 to the macro, it never hit 00 again.But then started hitting numbers above 32. So seems to me the wheel is stacked.
Problem is just because you saw a pattern happen once doesnt mean its ever going to happen again. Such is the nature of random numbers.a previous result will have NO bearing on the next one.
The probability of winning a single round is higher than losing, sure, but the amount won is far less than the amount lost.
As I said, mathmatically speaking, in a "perfect" world where the probabilitys are exact, in 100 goes, you'd win 85 times, and lose 15 times, and you WILL lose money.
But random numbers are far from perfect and probabilities are a "best guess" scenario, especially at such a low sample. You could end up doing far better, you could end up doing far worse.
In other words, You got to know when to hold 'em, Know when to fold 'em, Know when to walk away, and know when to run. Thats why they call it gambling instead of "having a go on the free money machine" all you can do is narrow the odds, which is what this system does.
Message Edited by Mentski on 10-11-2005 10:54 PM
DeijhaVhu
Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:11 pm
#12
Yep, that was kind of my point. Was trying to show that you can't just set it up and walk away and expect to get rich. But statistically speaking the odds of that many 00 (which normally are the "house's" numbers) really shouldn't happen, but that is the luck of gambling.
Ultron69
Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:56 pm
#13
I never suggested that any Gambling should be AFK Looped;You lose the feelfor the Wheel.When you lost on the Double 0 Greenie twice you shoulda put down the Beer and went and bought some Pie with your 400k.
DeijhaVhu wrote:
So playing around yesterday I made the following macro:
/bet 10000 1;
/bet 10000 2;
/bet 10000 3;
/bet 10000 4;
/bet 10000 5;
/bet 10000 6;
/bet 10000 7;
/bet 10000 8;
/bet 10000 9;
/bet 10000 10;
/bet 10000 11;
/bet 10000 12;
/bet 10000 13;
/bet 10000 14;
/bet 10000 15;
/bet 10000 16;
/bet 10000 17;
/bet 10000 18;
/bet 10000 19;
/bet 10000 20;
/bet 10000 21;
/bet 10000 22;
/bet 10000 23;
/bet 10000 24;
/bet 10000 25;
/bet 10000 26;
/bet 10000 27;
/bet 10000 28;
/bet 10000 29;
/bet 10000 30;
/bet 10000 31;
/bet 10000 32;
/pause 160;
/ui action toolbarSlot00;
I assign it to the first toolbar slot and then I just let him go for about an hour. At the end he was down 2mil so statistically it doesn'tbalance it out the way it should, or as is also very possible, I'm just that unlucky. What I found interesting wasthat one streak hit "00" 3 out of about 5 times..and twice in a row. So then I added 00 to the macro, it never hit 00 again.But then started hitting numbers above 32. So seems to me the wheel is stacked. That being said at one point I was up about 400k, but in the name of science I let the macro keep running.
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