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Thread: Selling faction points

kniker
Tue Nov 04, 2003 12:13 am
#1

here is a thought..... smugglers should not get a penalty for /delegatefaction so rank doesnt matter otherwise the whole buying of faction points is just retarded... only bonus ive found sofar for a smuggler low blow and sliceing the rest of the tree is a wast of exp and time if you ask me..
Mappy
Wed Aug 25, 2004 2:54 pm
#2

New smuggler question... Can I sell and buy faction points as a netural, or do I have to be a member of that faction?


Nerro
Wed Aug 25, 2004 3:26 pm
#3

You have to be a member of the faction you'd like to sell for. Imperials can only sell Imperial faction, Rebels can only sell Rebel faction and Neutrals can't sell faction at all.


When you're selling faction, it's best to be a Colonel in your faction as you will waste a lot of money and faction points in the delegation if you're not. The Colonel has the best ratio for faction transfer.



Nerro Elyst
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Selling Rebel Faction at 120 per point
Yukiko
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:18 am
#4


hi all



thx for your wise advices






i can buy as master smuggler for 100k credits 1250 faction points, right?


to transfer 1000 points faction i got feed 1670 points faction myself. so far so good.



those 1000 cost me 100k as said, what does those 1670 will cost me??? (somebody can count good here?)

and spoken in cpu? those 1670 are how much cpu???


need to know that to know how much cpu i can charge





how can people sell low price like 125 cpu? dont they hurt themselve with that or does it still pays off at that rate?





sorry i am not good in maths

Message Edited by Yukiko on 06-04-200511:30 AM

Message Edited by Yukiko on 06-04-2005 11:30 AM

Dosi
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:31 am
#5

Become a colonel, it will only cost you 118 pfp to transfer



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Yukiko
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:42 am
#6

great thx




so as colonel (ighest possible rank) ut cost 118 to send 100



so i send 1000 and pay 1118 factionpoints




i can still buy 1250 for 100k so now transferring 1000 cost me bit less than 100k


1000 points going for 100k is 100 CPU!!!


(my personal cost, even bit less than that)



so a fair price would be 125 cpu i guess, i would do 25k profit with selling 1000 faction


but im not fair so i would do at least 150cpu, do at least 50k profit ^^


do you think it should be like 180cpu or do you think everything above 125 is not nice?


ChAOs949
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:43 am
#7

so your buyin at 80cpu but sellin 1670/1000 so thats like 1.67fac points each point you sell so 80 x 1.67 = 133.6 which appears to me what your cpu would be... think i got that right



Arym
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Dosi
Sat Jun 04, 2005 11:45 am
#8

It's 1:18 for delegating at colonel, and check your pm's

Faction point selling numbers

Message Edited by Dosi on 06-04-2005 01:47 PM



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NDosi AtasiarN
Elder Master Smuggler, Seller of Spices and Imperial Faction
Eta-2 Actis Interceptor "Darkness Fell"
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Shadow_Drgn
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:45 pm
#9

Hello guys im a little new at this so let me get this straight Corporal is highest smuggler needs? or can get ? and why is it i give 20k and get 250 fp and give 100k and get 760xp ? its cheaper giving him 20 at a time 100k= 1000 fp



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Dosi
Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:51 pm
#10

Not Corporal, Colonel!



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NDosi AtasiarN
Elder Master Smuggler, Seller of Spices and Imperial Faction
Eta-2 Actis Interceptor "Darkness Fell"
MySpace
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Bentu Tarlen, Master Shipwright. Vendors in Spacetown, Lok @ 444 -1100

Yukiko
Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:18 am
#11


thx dosi




is its 1:118 at colonel (higehst rank) that would be a cpu of 118 right????????


so with cpu 118 i dont make any profit and dont lose money





if this is true sellinf faction is not a way to earn money


because if i sell at 125 cpu (and 90% of customers think thats too much and leave again) i can do 125000 credits for 1000 points, but i have to pay for myself 118000 credits for 1000 points so i do 7000 credits profit each 1000 points




thats nothing


thats less than nothin? 7k profit each 1k faction i sell, thats peanuts??


if somebody wants to buy 10k faction, in best case i can do 70k credits with that?



i cant believe that, i think i still do something wrong?

Jaguarrr
Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:27 am
#12






Yukiko wrote:


thx dosi




is its 1:118 at colonel (higehst rank) that would be a cpu of 118 right????????


so with cpu 118 i dont make any profit and dont lose money





if this is true sellinf faction is not a way to earn money


because if i sell at 125 cpu (and 90% of customers think thats too much and leave again) i can do 125000 credits for 1000 points, but i have to pay for myself 118000 credits for 1000 points so i do 7000 credits profit each 1000 points




thats nothing


thats less than nothin? 7k profit each 1k faction i sell, thats peanuts??


if somebody wants to buy 10k faction, in best case i can do 70k credits with that?



i cant believe that, i think i still do something wrong?







Meeeeep, wrong.


The 1:118 should actually be 1:1.18 and that is the delegation ratio


meaning


If you delegate 100 FP you loose 118 FP (18 FP as transfer fee, so to say) as Colonel



Making profit with faction deals begins with ~79 cpu to ~95 cpu, depends if you use an entertainer buff and if your faction won or lost the Cries of Alderaan Story.


basicly you are with 125/FP on a save side with a nice profit, it is my current price and since my faction deals are pretty rare anyway and I usally have banked some FP from a duty mission in space it is pure profit for me.




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Alpha_Bits
Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:32 am
#13

Well, if you don't think you can make money selling faction, you live in a different tax bracket than me...


One very hand tip: Get inspiration buffed before you buy your customer's faction points. Then you get 1375 fp for 100K, rather than 1250.


Okay, say someone wants 5200 faction points (you know... rebel wants to go imp). If you're a colonel, you need 1.18 X 5200 points in order to delegate 5200... 6136 faction points. If you're inspiration buffed, that costs you (6136 / 1375) X 100,000 = 446,254 credits. And at 125cpu, your customer pays 5200 X 125 = 650,000.... profit of a little more than 200K credits.


Yeah, that's a big profit. If someone is nice or hard-up, you could charge them left. If you're going to sell faction, calculate your cost based on your rank and whether or not you're inspiration buffed and go off of that. And if you're going to sell faction, get to Colonel as soon as possible.



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