Smuggler Archive

Thread: A question for all the gracious smugglers... from a jedi! /duck

SlashNBurn
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:06 pm
#1
Hey guys. First of all I just want to say that I feel for you guys. All this time waiting for the love you have been promised and getting passed over for other profs. I have been playing since release and I have had some smuggling skills (mostly slicing) for almost a year before the CU came along. Anyway I just wanted to get some knowledge from you guys.


I unlocked my jedi a short while ago and began leveling him during the respec period. I ran into a bunch of "respec" hunters and was able to dispatch most of them. Last night however I saw a dot on the radar and someone recognized the hunter as being "good". I thought I would stick around and try to fight it out. The fight was going on for about 5 mins. He had a mob start to attack him which helped my cause. My force was beginning to get low but I could tell the tide had turned in my favor. I was whittling away the last of the guys health when BAM i get hit for 3750 damage and get incapped and killed. I knew right away what had happened but I couldnt believe the number was right.


So anyway my question is how exactly does Last Ditch work? How low does your health have to be to do this amount of damage (which can kill anyone unbuffed in 1 shot I believe). Also, how can I avoid this happening to me again? I do try to stay and fight BHs and not just run and hide but if this is what is going to happen everytime I fight one, then I should stretch my running legs out. Thanks for any info in advance.




P.S. If the skill is that good, I may have to pick it up and use it myself with some Rifleman skills to fight off the BHs.



JEREDU NEMSHADOW
Master Noobsauce - V - Paranoid Jedi
yimaz
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:10 pm
#2
Last Ditch will take most if not all of your health to get a "max" damage on your target. Problem is it leave you with nothing in the way of health, hence the name. So if he had not incaped ya you could have for sure killed him. You know how people think Jedi is "uber" and you tell them it's not...well LD is the same way. It fails more then it works and leaves you open to be killed, believe me when I tell you it 'ant all that.



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

RhysHacker
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:16 pm
#3

It is simply as the name implies.


You are dead anyway and you got one last ditched attempt at staying alive.


Will it save you, perhaps. Will it kill you, more than likely.


If you are a smuggler, you may as well hit it in this situation.


I am not sure it is worth adding into a template due to skill point costs.


Just be aware that a smuggler can sting. Just know it.





Billy Porter
Mandalorian Rangers
Pistoleer  Colonel  Smuggler
Offer auction wins to the Power Droid next to the YT-1300 Holo in the TCC, Paradise City. 1km from Bestine (-1300 -4819)

>
Mac_Leod
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:26 pm
#4
Since you seem to be a nice, reasonable, mature jedi I'll give you a tip on how to avoid it. I'm not sure if this works since I've never tried it, but I hear that if you watch your opponent's health and when you think he's about ready to use Last Ditch, hit him with a knockdown. Then you should be able to incap them before they get up.



MacLeod Hunting & Freelance Cargo Delivery

Connor' MacLeod, Proprieter
Loyal soldier of RATGWNIWNU
SlashNBurn
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:34 pm
#5

Thanks guys for the responses. Just three other quick questions.


1. If I had a PSG would it have taken the 30% or so off the attack... basically what is the MAX damage that can possibly be done with this attack.


2. What can be doen to try and lessen the chance of getting taken out by this skill? What determines if it hits or not? Will force aura and valor help block this attack? (This may be outside the knowledge of the smuggler forum).


3. I understand that Last Ditch uses up all of your health, action, and mind... but will it use up my force? If I was getting beat on could I hit LD, then use my advanced force heal twice and be back up to full health? Note: I am NOT a PVP player. I only ask becuase I am forced to defend myself froma constant stream of BHs as I try to hunt.



Thanks again in advance for any info.





JEREDU NEMSHADOW
Master Noobsauce - V - Paranoid Jedi
Antonnio
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:34 pm
#6
Stats have placed last ditch as only having a 30% chance of hitting.

You seem to be a nice guy, so I will tell you a story. When I was a bounty hunter, i fought 6 jedi and last ditch never worked once on any of them.

Its natural to scream Nerf on it, but the fact still remains... for most smugglers it incaps them and their target instantly... meaning the shooter never gets the opportunity to death blow.

Like I said, your a nice guy, so follow the above advice. If all jedi did, we would all be better off. Well, not exactly better off, but nerf-crying wise, yes.

Message Edited by Antonnio on 06-05-2005 06:36 PM 



Smuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmug  |
gler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler  | Antonnio J. Rossi
4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Lif  | Captain of the Lone Wolf
eSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmu  | For Profit Only
ggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggle  | *   *   *
r4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Li  |  
feSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSm  | My Holonet Page
uggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggl  |
er4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4L  | We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.
yimaz
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:36 pm
#7




Antonnio wrote:
Stats have placed last ditch as only having a 30% chance of hitting.

You seem to be a nice guy, so I will tell you a story. When I was a bounty hunter, i fought 6 jedi and last ditch never worked once on any of them.

Its natural to scream Nerf on it, but the fact still remains... for most smugglers it incaps them and their target instantly... meaning the shooter never gets the opportunity to death blow.

Like I said, your a nice guy, so follow the above advice. If all jedi did, we would all be better off.


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!




Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Antonnio
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:37 pm
#8

yimaz wrote:

Antonnio wrote:
Stats have placed last ditch as only having a 30% chance of hitting.

You seem to be a nice guy, so I will tell you a story. When I was a bounty hunter, i fought 6 jedi and last ditch never worked once on any of them.

Its natural to scream Nerf on it, but the fact still remains... for most smugglers it incaps them and their target instantly... meaning the shooter never gets the opportunity to death blow.

Like I said, your a nice guy, so follow the above advice. If all jedi did, we would all be better off.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!




I don't get it? its not like it isnt well known... 



Smuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmug  |
gler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler  | Antonnio J. Rossi
4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Lif  | Captain of the Lone Wolf
eSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmu  | For Profit Only
ggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggle  | *   *   *
r4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4Li  |  
feSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSm  | My Holonet Page
uggler4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggl  |
er4LifeSmuggler4LifeSmuggler4L  | We're made to suffer. It's our lot in life.
SlashNBurn
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:43 pm
#9

Thanks all for the comments and feedback. I had visions of every BH that I came across having put the skills into the smuggler tree to get Last Ditch. I guess that is not the case.


You all seem to have a pretty good handle on your profession. I hope you all get the revamp that you have been deserving.


Thanks again.



JEREDU NEMSHADOW
Master Noobsauce - V - Paranoid Jedi
yimaz
Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:46 pm
#10




Antonnio wrote:




yimaz wrote:




Antonnio wrote:
Stats have placed last ditch as only having a 30% chance of hitting.

You seem to be a nice guy, so I will tell you a story. When I was a bounty hunter, i fought 6 jedi and last ditch never worked once on any of them.

Its natural to scream Nerf on it, but the fact still remains... for most smugglers it incaps them and their target instantly... meaning the shooter never gets the opportunity to death blow.

Like I said, your a nice guy, so follow the above advice. If all jedi did, we would all be better off.


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!







I don't get it? its not like it isnt well known...


Just teasing ya a little




Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Nicolas_Frost
Sun Jun 05, 2005 7:38 pm
#11
Since you seem to be mature, I won't deal with you as I like to deal with others...*gestures towards the wall with "READ THE STICKY NOTES!" scrawled in blood*

There are only two factors which directly effect Last Ditch's chance to hit. The user's Accuracy Mod, and the target's Defence mod. Any states applied to either the user or the target which effect those two mods will indirectly effect Last Ditch's chance to hit.

Last Ditch is a ranged Special, so if you decide you want to use it, you'll need to pack a pistol(or any gun, but "pack a pistol" sounds cooler ).

Last Ditch has been reported to have done around 6000 points of damage when timed almost perfectly. However, this is the amount before armor.

Like it was mentioned, if you feel your opponent is about to use Last Ditch, knock them down, or any thing else you believe might keep them from using it. Intimidation helps to lower damage output.

Oh, and deffinately get some of those Shield Generators, they will come in usefull, as long as your opponent has an energy weapon. My advice in this situation is to equip it before you leave your house, so that they don't see the effect of it turning on, then just leave it on.

Above all else, the best way to keep a Bounty Hunter templating himself on Last Ditch from coming after you is to do your damnedest to stay off the terminals.



Jaecob Maragi
Babelonian Militia Captain
Master Smuggler and Alliance Pilot
Captain of the LongShot(2)
THE Official Smuggler Forum Smartass!
The prices of my services are based on "tolerance". The more I have to tolerate you, the more you have to pay me.


Alpha_Bits
Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:35 pm
#12

I't's so tempting to launch a pie... but... it's such a gracious, polite and intelligent question rather than a request for us to get 'fixed'.... so I can't.


/target SlashNBurn


/offer pie


For what it's worth, I've only Last Ditched ONCE without getting incapped myself. And I've used it at least a dozen times.




========
Gith - Professional Scoundrel

"If I kill one of you, will the other two shut up?"

"It don't matter. None of this matters."
- Carl
Spiderhammer
Sun Jun 05, 2005 9:31 pm
#13




Nicolas_Frost wrote:

Above all else, the best way to keep a Bounty Hunter templating himself on Last Ditch from coming after you is to do your damnedest to stay off the terminals.



AMEN!!!







# I support PIRATES!!!! YARR, matey!


Player Based Smugglin... its the only way!
Page 1 of 2
Previous Next