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Thread: I´ll be d@mned: an apology from SoE

Aendracon
Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:32 am
#1

Have a look at the announcement board:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Announcements&message.id=675






Dear Star Wars Galaxies Players,

On behalf of the entire LucasArts and SOE SWG team, we wanted to take this opportunity to apologize for a recent change we made regarding group experience (XP) rates. With Publish 22, we attempted to fix an unintended game play mechanic that we introduced with the Combat Upgrade earlier this year. Specifically, we wanted to correct a large divergence between the rate at which experience (XP) could be earned in a solo setting versus a group setting. After this change hit live, we were presented with a mountain of feedback describing how this change had a major negative impact on your enjoyment of the game. We want to let you know that we hear you and we value your feedback. You were right: we made a mistake on this one and we reversed out the change because of that feedback. We continue to learn from experience and pledge to improve our process for bringing you timely updates to Star Wars Galaxies.

Thank you for your understanding and we look forward to seeing you in the game!

Sincerely,

Julio Torres
Producer, Star Wars Galaxies
LucasArts

Todd Fiala
Director of Development, Austin Studio
Sony Online Entertainment




Although words are cheap and this apology does not cover two years of neglect of the Smuggler profession, I still declare this as a day to behold. Too badSmugglers don't have a lobby at SoE or LA.




Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
cpz
Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:53 am
#2









Dear Star Wars Galaxies Players,

On behalf of the entire LucasArts and SOE SWG team, we wanted to take this opportunity to apologize for a recent change we made regarding group experience (XP) rates. With Publish 22, we attempted to fix an unintended game play mechanic that we introduced with the Combat Upgrade earlier this year. Specifically, we wanted to correct a large divergence between the rate at which experience (XP) could be earned in a solo setting versus a group setting. After this change hit live, we were presented with a mountain of
feedback describing how this change had a major negative impact on your enjoyment of the game. We want to let you know that we hear you and we value your feedback. You were right: we made a mistake on this one and we reversed out the change because of that feedback. We continue to learn from experience and pledge to improve our process for bringing you timely updates to Star Wars Galaxies.

Thank you for your understanding and we look forward to seeing you in the game!

Sincerely,

Julio Torres
Producer, Star Wars Galaxies
LucasArts

Todd Fiala
Director of Development, Austin Studio
Sony Online Entertainment






Feedback = cancelled accounts = ftw



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pogocreek
Tue Aug 23, 2005 3:54 am
#3

least they posted innit. looked at the next patch notes just there 2. it's good they're focusing on bugfixes with all theese publishes i think. vast swathes of the game have been busted since day 1 of live hehe. fingers crossed for some smuggler luv after all the fixing is finished tho



Creek (Europe-Chimaera)
Selling Imperial Factionpoints at 110cpu
dlc3007
Tue Aug 23, 2005 5:04 am
#4

Translation:


We're sorry that we slowed down your FS grind. We realize that everyone who creates an account really wants a jedi character. When someone put in the exp changes, they didn't realize that it would result in people having to AFK grind for so long. We've shortened the AFK grind back to its original level to make it easier for everyone -- because everyone likes an easy game with no risk or challenge. Please accept our apology and rest assured that we'll continue to do everything in our power to keep s**king the jedi's d**ks to make them happy.




Imperial Col. Croda L'to

Jedi kiss their sisters -- repeatedly.



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Kelko
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:19 am
#5





Dear Star Wars Galaxies Players,

On behalf of the entire LucasArts and SOE SWG team, we wanted to take this opportunity to apologize for a recent change we made regarding group experience (XP) rates. With Publish 22, we attempted to fix an unintended game play mechanic that we introduced with the Combat Upgrade earlier this year. Specifically, we wanted to correct a large divergence between the rate at which experience (XP) could be earned in a solo setting versus a group setting. After this change hit live, we were presented with a mountain of feedback describing how this change had a major negative impact on your enjoyment of the game. We want to let you know that we hear you and we value your feedback. You were right: we made a mistake on this one and we reversed out the change because of that feedback. We continue to learn from experience and pledge to improve our process for bringing you timely updates to Star Wars Galaxies.

Thank you for your understanding and we look forward to seeing you in the game!

Sincerely,

Julio Torres
Producer, Star Wars Galaxies
LucasArts

Todd Fiala
Director of Development, Austin Studio
Sony Online Entertainment





OMFG! This has gotten to the point of being down right comical. Almost like the keystone cops. Hey Julio and Todd, wheres the long awaited aplogy for the "major negative impact on your enjoyment of the game" that a lot of the other professions (Smuggler, Squad Leader, DE, Artisan, Ranger, etc.)have been dealing with forone and in some cases over two years. Let's get an apology and quick action to fix these professions.


Yah I know.... not effing likely because our "major negative impact on your enjoyment of the game" doesn't affect the Jedi profession so to hell with us right.


Ya bunch of hypocrtical jerks!




SWG+PUB 19+CU+NGE = Crap
TalKurgan
Tue Aug 23, 2005 10:43 am
#6

Too little, too late. They've got much more to fix before I'll accept.



"And so our player base was coming around the corner and we were all BOOM! HEADSHOT! And then the veterans were coming down the stairs and, you know what? BOOM! HEADSHOT!" -FPSDev
NickHeel
Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:40 am
#7






TalKurgan wrote:
Too little, too late. They've got much more to fix before I'll accept.



Yup. This game is broken beyond repair. About a year ago, with some work, ithad a chance of becoming what we all want. But now it is what it is. A random MMO set in a Star Wars design.




"The simple fact is the devs probably don't WANT this class in the game. At least not in any truly interactive form. They'd like us to stick around and RP our way through things rather than THEM doing their JOBS and giving us a truly developed profession. Why? Because it's easier and it keeps in line with the Star Wars amusement park they've developed here. "Look kids! There's Han Solo! See? He's 'smuggling' goods past those guards!" "Daddy, he's just pretending." "Shhh, I know, but isn't it fun to watch?"

That, I believe, is the dev vision for us. We're tourist attractions. We're the guys in the cartoon character suit who wander around "in character" while kids get their pictures taken with us and we sweat our sacks off inside the suit wondering if we'll ever get a real job or why we didn't go work somewhere else."





THE LEGENDARY CAPTAIN N'JOH SONIK OF ORD MANTELL
Independent Smuggler N Pilot of the Famous Sonik Rogue N Forever, The Most Legendary and Greatest Smuggler on Tarquinas
truewildman
Wed Aug 24, 2005 3:45 am
#8

Unfortunately it was an apology they shouldn't have given on an xp change they shouldn't have reversed. Oh well.





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Ammerha Corobb
-Droid Engineer-
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KloudRunner
Wed Aug 24, 2005 4:19 am
#9

Still got ALONG way to go before i forgive em.......come on give us all an apology for the treatment of us smugglers....come on




Kloudrunner


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Scoundral

Pirate


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WesBelden
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:12 am
#10

Meh, that link got me reading that old thread again and TH's responses about what was next after ID's mini publish and the phone calls that'd happen between Caylin and himself to sort things out..

Sad to think that was all the way back at Publish 8

Edit: On a side note, I think it good that they apologised for it in the way they did, perhaps a sign of the way the current producer handles things. A pitty that actual injustices (as I see this latest incident as rather a mistake than skulduggery of any kind) went by without a similar post in the past.

Message Edited by WesBelden on 08-24-2005 03:19 PM



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RichardBryant
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:22 am
#11



WesBelden wrote:
Meh, that link got me reading that old thread again and TH's responses about what was next after ID's mini publish and the phone calls that'd happen between Caylin and himself to sort things out..

Sad to think that was all the way back at Publish 8

Edit: On a side note, I think it good that apologised for it in the way they did, perhaps a sign of the way the current producer handles things. A pitty that other injustices went by without a similar post in the past.

Message Edited by WesBelden on 08-24-2005 03:14 PM





Took a +250 page thread and god alone knows how many cancellations to make that happen, Wes. Because you see, that particular shafted everyone. Jedi most of all (good) but everyone.

Shaft the smugglers and we're the only ones who notice. And i mean "we", those who post on this forum. Because the smugglers in-game don't know what they've been promised if they don't read it here, especially given the way GarVa likes to delete concept threads without a word of warning.

So, a minority of a minority complains, and maybe cancels.

While in-game smugglers respec or regrind but that almost certainly will never be noticed by the Producers, because those accounts stay live.




Cael Broden, Master Smuggler.
I am Jack's Ignored Profession
"I don't have saber envy. I have patch envy. 2 years is unacceptable."
"Wars not make one great. AFK-grinding on wookiees on Kashyyk make one great!"
Aendracon
Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:22 am
#12

/agree



Ryian Coron - Elder Smuggler
"do not assume your customers are morons. odds are they know a lot more about the situation than you do because they live with it every day. listen to them, actually listen, and take what they say into account. you might save some money, morons."
- Fernas
JakeEyes
Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:55 pm
#13


truewildman wrote:
Unfortunately it was an apology they shouldn't have given on an xp change they shouldn't have reversed. Oh well.





Ditto

Message Edited by JakeEyes on 08-24-2005 04:55 PM



Jagan Cobb
Master Smuggler / Kettemoor
"Business is an adventure, Smuggling is just plain fun"
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