Smuggler Archive
Thread: CONCUSSION SHOT and YOU!
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HOTDOG
Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:26 pm
#1
I've been seeing a lot of threads started about the changes that are about to be made and figured that now is the time to clear things up and shore up the troops for the barrage of nerf calls we are most definitely going to receive.
The Deal:
We get Concussion Shot at novice and there is an Advanced version in the Master's Box.
What Concussion does right now is "root". Meaning it holds the target in place for 30 seconds but the target can still heal and attack.
Melee classes (especially Jedi) have complained because Concussion Shot does not work as it is described.
Concussion Shot is described as a "mez" that last 30 seconds and breaks on damage. That means: when you successfully hit someone with Concussion Shot they will not be able to move, attack, heal or do anything until the next time they take damage or 30 seconds transpires.
What does this mean?
Well, there is good and bad. I'll start with -
The Bad News:
When it comes to fighting one on one (especially against melee) we have been weakend considerably. No more rooting the melee guy, running back 35m and blasting him for a full 30 seconds until he is dead (ranged would just laugh and continue to shoot us).
The Good News:
When it comes to getting away or group fighting- we have gained a hell of a lot- especially if you have an AoE weapon. We will be able to mez groups of people and pick them off one by one- as long as you don't use an AoE weapon after concussion lands.
Concussion Shot is too powerful and needs to be nerfed.
Hold up, cowboy. Now- Concussion shot is a two way street. Yes. You can freeze a group of people in their tracks (something a level 5 crowd control should be able to do) but once they take damage they can move again.
The down side to this is you have to use an AoE weapon to hit a group and most AoE weapons have DOTs- (damage over time) which tick off every second. So as soon as the DOT ticks our target is able to move again.
This could be very messy for the Smuggler and his crew or he could be lucky- because if the fact that Concussion will most likely stick (if you are a master) but the DOT's may or may not. Here is an example:
A lone smuggler comes across 5 dudes of opposite faction. He uses an LBC to hit the lot of them with Concussion Shot. All 5 are Mezzed but3 of them catch fire (burn DOT) so a second later they are after you again.
If you use your LBC again you will damage all of them and they will all be after you. So you gotta think fast and be on your feet. In my mind this is not over powering.
HOWEVER
If you use a weapon like the Launcher Pistol- that doesn't have a DOT- you could root all 5 and work them down one at a time. 
This is where we might be considered overpowerful but again, I don't think so. I think this is tactics. But prepare to hear it.
Some things to do with your mezzed target(s):
- Pull out your bomb droid- watch your timer to see when you can use Concussion Shot again. Send in and detonate the droid at the last possible second. Rinse and repeat.
- You target is mezzed. Hit them with a KD followed quickly by your hardest hit (people take more damage when they are KD'd) You might even change position to kneeling or prone (move back if you must- remember, you got 30 seconds!) because you cause more damage this way.
- RUN. For the love of god. RUN.
The one thing I would like to see with this is the ability to pull a vehicle. It would be great to CS someone, pull out your vehicle, and speed away. 
I wonder if we could /peace and do that? We will have to test it.
In the end- we must stand as a community and protect our new Concussion Shot. It is NOT a nerf! This move is going to make us stronger in crowd control than anyone else in the game. When we get it let's protect it, kids!
dlc3007
Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:49 pm
#5
Ahh... the joys of the '/whisper Acid Rifle'.... 65m range, wide AoE, no DOT, and the chance to blind along with the mez. Shh.... this will just be our little secret.
Ternque01
Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:57 pm
#6
I'm kinda fond of the Rocket Launcher. I don't think that has a DoT. Plus it has an inherent KD and a 64 meter range!
Mentski
Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:59 pm
#7
New use when it gets changed
Low on health? about to die? scared to use last ditch?
Concussion shot em first, then follow up with the last ditch which they cant block!
EnderUK
Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:12 pm
#8
KD, mez, run back prone, wait for concussion cool down, aim, snipershot, mez, wait aim, snipershot...
DIE JEDI DIE 
Oh and the the acid stream rifle has 65m, 15m AoE and no dot
DIE JEDI GROUP DIE
yimaz
Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:17 pm
#9
HOTDOG wrote:
- Pull out your bomb droid- watch your timer to see when you can use Concussion Shot again. Send in and detonate the droid at the last possible second. Rinse and repeat.
U B so Smart! I gotta try this tonight
/bow
Rueger_Karde
Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:18 pm
#10
Is there a non proff specific weapon that is AoE? Im kinda maxxed right now I can't see me chaning for awhile...
zakalex
Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:35 pm
#11
Ya'll need to think bigger? If you want to kill jediseems to me theway to go is get four BH to take the same mission, only one of them needs to be a MS/BH combo. When they find the jedi, apply a mez and everyone parks their bomb droid on the jedi and start the detonation at the same time. Four droids at max power, and detonated at almostthe very same moment,should leave you asking only one thing...who'll clean up the mess?
WTS
Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:53 pm
#12
i like the change to concussion shot... especially since i can still get a root by training up pistoleer.
HOTDOG
Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:56 pm
#13
dlc3007 wrote:
Ahh... the joys of the '/whisper Acid Rifle'.... 65m range, wide AoE, no DOT, and the chance to blind along with the mez. Shh.... this will just be our little secret.
I was considering switching to the Acid Rifle (we do have one more respec thanks to the whiners) for just this reason- Don't want to get rid of my LBC though (or lose the ability to crack bases)- but I JUST might do it and go MS/MBH/Commando 0103. Hmmmmmmm.
Anyway- keep the suggestions coming guys. I'm taking notes...
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