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Thread: Need Help getting down the rest of Slicing III, and Slicing IV
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Dakkaeo
Fri May 28, 2004 1:00 am
#1
Hey, I have about halfway though Slicing III, and none of Slicing IV. (well...obviously 
)
I really want to grind my way through these last skills, I have about 4k in copper already,
but I really need to know what the steps would be for doing this. Is 100k in money enough
to work off of? I really need some tips...post A.S.A.P. as you can, fellow smugglers! Thanks
a load.
)I really want to grind my way through these last skills, I have about 4k in copper already,
but I really need to know what the steps would be for doing this. Is 100k in money enough
to work off of? I really need some tips...post A.S.A.P. as you can, fellow smugglers! Thanks
a load.
Smuggler_Caylin
Fri May 28, 2004 1:12 am
#2
100k is easily enough.
Check the sticky important links post, look for the guides in there. One in particular is a link to 'Reavus' guide to grinding smuggler' i believe.
Check that out, it might have the rest of the answers you seek.
One of the Four Horsemen of the Smuggler Apocalypse! 
FrankLee
Fri May 28, 2004 1:13 am
#3
Many crafters sell crates of cheap weapons. Buy some. Also get a master smuggler to craft you a few crates of molecular clamps (figure out how many weapons you need to do at 250/point and get the same number of clamps).
I made my own PLK's when I wanted a break from squinting at the slice-dialog, but you'll be crafting a bunch of those too.
Sit down with the crate, and slice away. If you buy crates of PLK's (tricky but labor-saving) be careful to uncrate each one when you use it, if you leave it up to the UI to draw them from the crate, sometimes it pulls it out and uses it correctly, sometimes a 10-use PLK gets used once and disappears. Lost 2 crates of PLK's before I caught on. Leave the crate in the backpack and bring out knoves to main inventory.
If you're really ambitious you can try to resell the cheap weapons on the bazaar. I had a crafter in my home city selling cheap (but legitimately useful) weapons for 50 or 100cr each; I bought dozens, sliced them, and re-offered them to the vendor cheap for resale. I got my slicing exp, he got a bigger profit, and essentially got to sell the same weapon twice.
Good luck.
I made my own PLK's when I wanted a break from squinting at the slice-dialog, but you'll be crafting a bunch of those too.
Sit down with the crate, and slice away. If you buy crates of PLK's (tricky but labor-saving) be careful to uncrate each one when you use it, if you leave it up to the UI to draw them from the crate, sometimes it pulls it out and uses it correctly, sometimes a 10-use PLK gets used once and disappears. Lost 2 crates of PLK's before I caught on. Leave the crate in the backpack and bring out knoves to main inventory.
If you're really ambitious you can try to resell the cheap weapons on the bazaar. I had a crafter in my home city selling cheap (but legitimately useful) weapons for 50 or 100cr each; I bought dozens, sliced them, and re-offered them to the vendor cheap for resale. I got my slicing exp, he got a bigger profit, and essentially got to sell the same weapon twice.
Good luck.
Dakkaeo
Fri May 28, 2004 1:33 am
#4
Thanks but here it saysI'll need total:
*300 Weapons
*300 Weapon Upgrade Kits
72 Laser Knives (which I can do myself)
*360 Molecular Clamps
How can I get all the ones with the * with only 100k? weaponsmiths have been charging 6k for a crate of25CDEF pistols..that means 4 for 100 which will be 24k, so...96k, JUST for the PISTOLS?! I can't afford that, and the other components combined at all!
FrankLee
Fri May 28, 2004 1:48 am
#5
I went with survival knives, they were cheaper.
The WUK's can be found cheaply too, most novice/early WS's will be crafting and selling them.
The Mol clamps you'll have to shop around for. Personally I saw a wide variance in price on Scylla, where I live. I am trying to price my own stock now, but some people will walk in and pay 1k/clamp, or 25k/crate, and sometimes a sale of a 25-crate won't go for 6k on the bazaar. I think I'll settle down to a price between 200-500 per clamp, but that's beside the point unless you're on Scylla.
You won't need more clamps than weapons, unless you're grinding the previous boxes too. I think my recent box 3/box 4 grind ran about 150-200k, but I wasn't very patient and didn't just buy an eq factory and a schematic (a good plan if you're going to stay a smuggler a while anyway). A crate of molecular clamps can be cranked out in 40-45 minutes. If you have friends who have them, you might even be able to borrow a few hours of their time and cheap (the absolute cheapest you can find) resources, manufacture some crates and you're good to go.
The WUK's can be found cheaply too, most novice/early WS's will be crafting and selling them.
The Mol clamps you'll have to shop around for. Personally I saw a wide variance in price on Scylla, where I live. I am trying to price my own stock now, but some people will walk in and pay 1k/clamp, or 25k/crate, and sometimes a sale of a 25-crate won't go for 6k on the bazaar. I think I'll settle down to a price between 200-500 per clamp, but that's beside the point unless you're on Scylla.
You won't need more clamps than weapons, unless you're grinding the previous boxes too. I think my recent box 3/box 4 grind ran about 150-200k, but I wasn't very patient and didn't just buy an eq factory and a schematic (a good plan if you're going to stay a smuggler a while anyway). A crate of molecular clamps can be cranked out in 40-45 minutes. If you have friends who have them, you might even be able to borrow a few hours of their time and cheap (the absolute cheapest you can find) resources, manufacture some crates and you're good to go.
Smuggler_Caylin
Fri May 28, 2004 1:49 am
#6
That was merely what you *could* use, but I'll stand by 100k is easily enough.
As I did my entire slicing 1-4 grind with only 40k to my name.
Cost is easily lowered if you are willing to do more.
Buy the wuks, you probably don't have much of a choice here.
Make survival knives, even at 3cpu its roughly 42 credits per weapon. You can probably find stone knives on the bazaar or other worthless weapons for about 50.
Make your own laser knives...
If you want, you can invest in making FAN's... you have the ability, you don't have to use molecular clamps or pay anyone for them.
CrazyGreggy
Fri May 28, 2004 2:30 am
#7
If you have the skillpoints free, pick up novice artisan and make your own survival knife schematic. Drop it in a fac and pump em out yourself....
P__Day
Fri May 28, 2004 3:03 am
#8
What i did was to go a get a personal mineral harv 3 ber get enough steel for 350 survival knives, did a search for an artisan gave him the steel ,paid him 4k to make knives in his factory. Went to a smuggler vendor and got 12 crates of clamps at about 8k pr crate, and being a novice weaponsmith made a schem for Wuk's for the artisan to run in his factory. The slicing tree is one of the most expensive ones to level as far as i know, so you might have to run some imssions in between slicing 3 and 4
JamfeFabri
Fri May 28, 2004 3:48 am
#9
I skipped through most of the thread so forgive me if i repeat something
Basically to get through slicing three you need 4 crates of cheap weapons, and 4 crates of wuks, and molecular clamps. Craft the knives ourself from copper.
Slicing 4 you need 8 of everything.
In the end I spent close to 100k or a little bit over. Don't buy expensive wuks or clamps go for the cheapest ones you can find (mine wer 4500creds a crate)
bushmaster2k
Fri May 28, 2004 7:19 am
#10
The cheapest way to do it is make the equipmentyourself. I made all the smuggler supplies myself and now run a vendor for other smuggler's who can't. If money is an issue. I would spend one buff session on dant in a solo group hunting janta's or mokk's. At 32k a mission you could easlily make up to 1 mil credits depending on your combat class.
RhyonCytari
Fri May 28, 2004 8:09 am
#11
Also try finding crates of weapons on the bazaar. The other day i was looking during my grind and found a couple crates of cdef pistols going for 2000 a crate of 25.
dorsai78664
Fri May 28, 2004 8:19 am
#12
I don't know Caylin, if he still needs 300 it might be kind of hard on just 100K unless he can find some fairly expensive clamps. He might want to check your thread on vendors to get prices. Based on my shop, this is what I worked out:
PLKs - 5 crates at 2500 each = 12,500
WUKs - 12 crates at 2500 each = 30,000
Survival Knives - 12 crates at 2500 each = 30,000
Clamps - 12 crates at 8000 each = 96,000
This is pretty close to 170K. Of course, that other 70K can be made up witha few missions or he can craft his own knives to save a bit. Might also be able to find a better deal on the clamps.
Message Edited by dorsai78664 on 05-28-2004 10:19 AM
Ragnaat
Fri May 28, 2004 9:30 am
#13
If money is tight why waste it on clamps? Even if you're unlucky and guess wrong you're still saving money in the end. Here's a guess rundown with failing 1.5x for every 1 success
PLKs - 8 crates at 2500 each = 20,000
WUKs - 12 crates at 2500 each = 30,000
Survival Knives - 30 crates at 2500 each = 75,000
Total cost: 125k
Cheaper if you're luckier and cheaper still if you make the PLKs as you go.
(IMPORTANT NOTE ON MATH: failing a weapon slice does NOT use a WUK and it only uses 1 charge on a PLK)
PLKs - 8 crates at 2500 each = 20,000
WUKs - 12 crates at 2500 each = 30,000
Survival Knives - 30 crates at 2500 each = 75,000
Total cost: 125k
Cheaper if you're luckier and cheaper still if you make the PLKs as you go.
(IMPORTANT NOTE ON MATH: failing a weapon slice does NOT use a WUK and it only uses 1 charge on a PLK)
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