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Thread: I'm not a Smuggler...

KaiRan
Thu Mar 25, 2004 9:05 am
#1



...yet my title says I am.


I'm being a bit controversial here, but hear me out. We have been struggling since the very beginning to find our true identity and place in this world. I myself find my activities and capabilities often contradict my title and "profession". In this one class, I am a purveyor of spice, a slicer, a fixer selling "favors", and a barroom brawler with a lack of fighting etiquette.


Only 1/4 of what I do is "smuggling". The rest fall into their own categories, independent of smuggling entirely (save perhaps DF). If I strip my title and look only at my capabilities, I do not see a Smuggler, but I see one who could be by choice of activities. I guess what I am saying is, the problem with our profession's purposemay not be how it is implemented, but instead how it is named.


We are Talon, Han, Lando, and more, all rolled into one. Not smugglers alone, or fast talkers, or slicers- but some category above all these that these fall into. Perhaps there is some elite class that focuses on smuggling alone above xxx4 we can envision, or a master of system hacking above x4xx, an underworld crime boss we will find above 4xxx... But we are not any one of these things.


A Scoundrel, a Rogue, an Outlaw. These I definitely am. But a Smuggler? That is not all I can do, though it may be what I can become.



[ EDIT: Friends dont let friends necro posts! ]

Message Edited by KaiRan on 11-10-2004 04:31 PM



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scathing
Thu Mar 25, 2004 2:20 pm
#2
/bump de dump



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neo_mozart
Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:54 pm
#3
That was bootiful....






Dark_Paradox
Fri Mar 26, 2004 1:55 am
#4
Dude, taht is insightful/philosophical...
Bosyn-Dallas
Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:50 am
#5
I agree. Maybe the should change our name to Scoundrel



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DrevenStrobe
Thu Apr 29, 2004 8:53 am
#6
Master Scruffy-looking Nerfherder....



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ninjamonkeytrx
Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:28 am
#7




DrevenStrobe wrote:

Master Scruffy-looking Nerfherder....





LMAO!




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NickHeel
Thu Apr 29, 2004 10:32 am
#8

One of the best semi-necro'd threads EVER.


AND I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ANY BULL**edit** FROM NO LACKY FORUM MOD ABOUT IT EITHER! GOOBER-ASS MODS HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO THAN TAKE **edit** AWAY FROM US HERE!!!






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DaPrez
Fri Apr 30, 2004 12:01 am
#9
We are just crooks...we hotwire peoples weapons, sell drugs, raise peoples ranks for cash. Yes we are crooks, outlaws, scoundrels, but we are not smugglers.




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OneShotOneKill
Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:30 pm
#10
maybe they will add a "smuggling" element when JTL comes out.

pick up a shipment with your ship, on teh way back get ambushed by the authorities, have to kill them in space combat, then make it safely to your destination with a shipment of mnaybe 2 crates of a good mission-only spice.

thats how i think it should work roughly, a smuggler smuggling mission



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LordVader27
Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:34 pm
#11
Sweet! Very...... poetic (?)



My Bounty Hunter System Proposal. Along with what other people think would be good expansions and such.
An Idea to Make Smuggler More Smugglerly
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MobusDyrus
Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:44 pm
#12
Awesome post! But lets not give the devs the option of changing our title...We want to be what our title says. Not "Scoundrels" or "Crime Lords". I know I won't have any problems dropping it if they decide to just change our title and be done with it. BUT, if they can change our title, fix some of our problems and do some changing to the profession...and then make a NEW profession called "Smuggler" that really does smuggle...I'll be a happy SWGer!! Perhaps be a Master Pistoleer, Master Scoundrel, and a Master Smuggler! lol

Very insightful post KaiRan.



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PhoenixOrion
Mon Aug 16, 2004 3:51 pm
#13
Just like no two Bounty Hunters are the same, so are Smugglers never all the same. BUT - each has to have a certain set of pre-req's as a basis for their profession that we'll all be similar in.


Lando, Han, Chewie and Talon Karrde all were great pilots and smugglers of goods and such. That was all their equal points.


Lando was more of a smooth talking gambler/businessman smuggler. He wasn't the great pilot that Han was and wasn't the underworld Don/King that Talon Karrde was.


Han and Chewie were great with guns, tinkering with their ship, and awesome pilots. Han was a pretty decent Gambler as well. Chewie was a good brawler.


Talon Karrde wasn't a great gunfighter so much in the books as he was the godfather of the underworld. He dealt in information and goods for money. He was the genius-level guy. He wasn't that great a pilot, he had people to pilot for him.


So it's really hard to pigeonhole them all, but for the most part, they all at least had some minor pistols and unarmed skills.


What they SHOULD do - is allow us to PICK which 2 trees we want to pick from 3 different base professions. Make it so they cannot pick 2 trees from the same base profession (like you can't pick rifleman AND pistols from Marksman - one or the other).


Say Artisan, Brawleror Marksman - to get Novice Smuggler. That should be it. So a guy could pick Pistols IV and Business IV and become a Businessman Smuggler. A person could pick Pistols IV and Unarmed IV and become the Brawler Smuggler. A person could pick Rifles IV and Unarmed IV and become a Rifleman Smuggler. A person could pick Business IV and Unarmed IV and become a brawling businessman. Etc.


We should never and will never only have Pistols IV as the pre-req to Smuggler. There are 3 out of 4 trees in Smuggler that have nothing to do with pistols, so that doesn't make much sense to not have a 2nd tree required (despite the fact Underworld requires pistols XP - it SHOULD require Smuggling XP, but thats the story for the Revamp).





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