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Thread: Do not blame jedi for this FD fiasco
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Sengis
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:30 am
#1
pfft you jedi dont even exist now this is meant to be starwars not kotor
Bridgebuilder
Sat Feb 19, 2005 7:37 am
#2
Well if FD was any kind of fiasco, i blame the devs for it, they did the code not the jedi.
jedi didnt shout about it, bounty hunters did, and other gcw players that came across people that used FD on them.
I dont really minf FD taken out of the pvp game, what gets to my nerve is that they find time for this and not to fix other essential things that could make smuggler more interesting.
this bug didnt hurt us much devs there are a LOT of other things that need your attention way before you spend valuable smuggler time to help out the bounty hunters.
EnderUK
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:04 am
#3
I blame Jedi, bounty hunters and the devs taking the easy way out. I've explained my reasonings many a time but people just can't to seem to get it into their heads.
Jedi Abused a skill when what they should have been doing was staying off the terminals.
Bounty Hunters whined about it
Smugglers produced constructive ideas unlike the "two shots and your dead" and"lets just move it to master screw smugglers leveling pistols with no pistol mods past pistol IV"
Smugglers get Nerfed and take the second useless special off their toolbar.
Jedi move on to a new expolite or abilitiy to abuse.
Bounty hunters forget about fiegn death and complain once more about jedi.
Jandel-Har
Sat Feb 19, 2005 8:18 am
#4
i have been hiding under a rock as of late, what FD fiasco? are we getting nerfed again?
Farenheit
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:36 am
#5
Yes, but the magnitude of blame toward players is getting old.
Read my above first post, that is whom you should blame.
dlc3007
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:39 am
#6
I will blame Jedi and BH for Feign Death being nerfed to the point of uselessness. Both of these professions are, to me, equal in their abuse of and complaints about our skill. BH and Jedi have shown themselves, as a group, to have total disregard for any other profession or players in the game. Why do I say this? Two words:
Fight Club.
Not only are they willing to exploit and abuse other profession’s skills, but they are willing to pervert one of the central themes of the game: BH v. Jedi. They have shown themselves perfectly willing to work with their sworn enemies when it suits them, but still whine and moan when one of our skills can be misused by/against them.
Until these 133t little babies grow up and start playing the game rather than as a means to wave their ____s around, I’ll have no respect for either profession. If you belong to one of these professions and don’t like what I have to say, then so something about it: ban the fight clubs and start RPing – and do something about the others in your profession.
SmugglinZane
Sat Feb 19, 2005 9:57 am
#7
Do me a favor and explain to me why Jedi NEED this skill? They need to skulk around and avoid visibility. They need to take their time and grind their templates smartly. They USED this skill to avoid it. Not only that, but show me one skill in that their trees at low level that are less powerful than anything the Smuggler tree has.
dlc3007
Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:02 am
#8
Thanks for the one-star, punk. Go back you your own boards, you uber little........
ShaikeRamjet
Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:11 am
#9
dlc3007 wrote:
I will blame Jedi and BH for Feign Death being nerfed to the point of uselessness. Both of these professions are, to me, equal in their abuse of and complaints about our skill. BH and Jedi have shown themselves, as a group, to have total disregard for any other profession or players in the game. Why do I say this? Two words:
Fight Club.
Not only are they willing to exploit and abuse other profession’s skills, but they are willing to pervert one of the central themes of the game: BH v. Jedi. They have shown themselves perfectly willing to work with their sworn enemies when it suits them, but still whine and moan when one of our skills can be misused by/against them.
Until these 133t little babies grow up and start playing the game rather than as a means to wave their ____s around, I’ll have no respect for either profession. If you belong to one of these professions and don’t like what I have to say, then so something about it: ban the fight clubs and start RPing – and do something about the others in your profession.
Well. I refuse to be in the fight clubs. But us doing something about it is like you trying to do something about it. People that do these things don't listen when the devs have ok'd the fight clubs.
And I gave you a 5 star to even you out. You are definitely entitled to your opinion.
Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 02-19-2005 12:14 PM
Kamileon
Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:30 am
#10
Jedi are to blame here, but they're not the only ones. While they're not responsible for a irresponsible "fix" to the problem, they are heavily responsible for abusing the skill and creating the problem in the first place.
I still blame whomever made this call most--they took an easy way out of solving a problem their own gam design created, punishing the wrong people. The solution to this was absolutely not to nerf feign death into oblivion, and call it a fix, it was to eliminate the situation by which feign death could be abused, or give it some kind of counter.
I still blame whomever made this call most--they took an easy way out of solving a problem their own gam design created, punishing the wrong people. The solution to this was absolutely not to nerf feign death into oblivion, and call it a fix, it was to eliminate the situation by which feign death could be abused, or give it some kind of counter.
Aelik Orrigo: Smuggler, Pilot, and Ranger. Kettemoor
Skysco
Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:55 am
#11
Removed by myself..
Message Edited by Skysco on 02-19-2005 07:00 PM
Farenheit
Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:12 pm
#12
Gang,
I feel for you on this FD fiasco. However, the right blame needs to be squarely on the dev's.. NOt the BH's, not the jedi, not the little guy in pvp that never wants to lose his stupid rating.. the devs.
Jedi need FD because BH's that are more tkm/fencer with just enough to get missions are running amock on every server. These unbalanced stackers are ganking noob jedi by the hords, and are way over powered to a new jedi. The Dev's should have made the ability to take out jedi mission to master BH only. But nope, they make it as easily accessible as your FD.
We are ALL being punished by people whom never had the forsight to begin with, to make sensible choices.
Blame the dev's and point the finger squarely where it needs to be . Not the players.
Sifer2
Sat Feb 19, 2005 1:27 pm
#13
Yep this is true. In fact when you really sit back an look at it most Nerfs are because of dabbling. In this case it was just the combined dabbling of Jedi intoSmuggler an most everyone else into Investigation 3. Hell even some BH's were using it to keep from ever failing a mission against a Jedi.
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