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Thread: Concussion Shot? NSs? Smuggler Kicks ASS, Baby!!!

HOTDOG
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:33 am
#1


SMUGGLER! FCUK YEAH!


Being a smuggler kicks Fcukin' ass, YO.


Alright, enough bravado (even though it is needed here lately)-


I've been working at killing NSs since Pub 19 went in, very unsuccessfully I might add, to the point that yesterday I had pretty much given in to the notion that I would have to team up with someone to hunt NSs.


This made me feel weak- as preCU I was a Swordsman and I would hunt NSsas easy aseating candy. And PrePub 19 I cold pull'em, root'em and shoot'em. NP.


Last night I figured I would give it one more shot. Even though most of my armor was beat to hell so I was exposed in a lot of places.


I healed up and grabbed a buff and headed out to a WP where I knew three NS Stalkers were. They were Level 85. It made me think twice about what I was about to do- then I saw a huge trench and decided to start my attack from the other side.


I went over.

Pulled out a droid.

Went prone and hit her with a KD.

She fell. I hit her with Critical.

She got up and charged.


I tried hitting her with another critical as she was coming across the trench but I got the -CAN'T SEE TARGET- message. This filled me with dread.


I freaked a little and hit CS as soon as she came up over the side- took a sec.

Hit my Duelist's Stance Macro (+250 Def.).

Went unarmed and started COB (+250 Def.).

Started the Droid countdown.

Went prone.

Hit her with KD.

The droid went off.

Hit her with Critical.


Stood up and began to kite her like a brand new "Spy Eyes" from the corner store on a windy May afternoon.


I ran in a circle mostly but I made sure she STAYED "Low Blow"ed and from time to time I charged at her hitting Critical and Torso, ran past her til' I was 10-15m away, turned around and ran back at her.


I hit her with critical, torso (when I knew I wasn't going to need a break) Stopping Shot (the one at 0001 pistoleer) and Panic Shot or Concussion when I need a break. I even had some Overwhelming shot and Reckless shots in there too.


She barely scratched me. I was NEVER in any danger of coming even close to incap.


It took me a while but I did loot her eventually (for about 700 credits).


I was so amped I thought I would try it again. This time, instead of my High Capacity Scatter (they should let us name our weapons) I used my Heavy Lightning Rifle.


I did pretty much the same thing- without the droid- and it went much faster (the HRL or "Harold" as I would call him, drops damage at 500-1034).


Again, the chick barely touched me.


I looted her for 660 credits (damnit! where's my f'in LOOT!)


So I figured I would do the last chick- but she ate my lunch and called me a punk.


I let her get too close to me and stay that way- I got really sloppy AND my boots went bad on me so her hits were really being felt. I didn't even try last ditch because she still had 3 quarters of her health and it really wouldn't have done me any good.


So the moral is:

TACTICS, TACTICS, TACTICS! Yeah, I can't root someone and then stand there and shoot the crap outta them until they can move again and then rinse and repeat BUT I can kick a my fair share of booty if I think about what I am doing instead of just randomly pushing buttons.


SMUGGLER/BOUNTY HUNTER STILL KICK ASS! FCUK YEAH!!






TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
Ternque01
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:45 am
#2

Great story


Have you tried using Restraining Shot to snare them?


I would LOVE to hunt NS's, but I'm a Smuggler/Commando. I don't really have efficient weapons that pack a punch (oddly enough). I guess I could use my Plasma Flame Thrower on one, but that means getting within 25 meters of one.... yikes!





Axob Freelight
The non-Jedi are extinct. Their fire has gone out of the universe.
HOTDOG
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:53 am
#3

Dathomir-


You can find them just about anywhere but head in the direction of the Night Sisters vs. Singing Mountain POI.


As you head out you will start to see NS slaves (which are fun to shoot, too) and eventually an NS or two. Make WPs as you find them because they tend to stay in the same place.


Engage the NSs at the POI if you wish but be warned:



  • Their Rancors are not very nice and they DO bite despite what any NS tells you.

  • If you have good Mountain Clan Faction run near them when an NS has you on the ropes. They will help you but you won't be able to loot the NS after (I did that a lot the other day thinking I could have them do all the tanking and I get the loot )


I too really like Commando- And I had Master Commando/ TKA 4400 for a short while but grew frustrated when I didn't have any damage shots to use with my hardcore weapons. Maybe Reckless shot with a Proton Rifle?








TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
Xoreshear
Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:53 am
#4






Ternque01 wrote:

Great story


Have you tried using Restraining Shot to snare them?


I would LOVE to hunt NS's, but I'm a Smuggler/Commando. I don't really have efficient weapons that pack a punch (oddly enough). I guess I could use my Plasma Flame Thrower on one, but that means getting within 25 meters of one.... yikes!







I am adding M Commando to my MS. Also Rifles 4xx4. Works great so far.



Zashar Shasp
Naval Pilot of the Imperial Inquisition
"Eradicating blind romantics stewed in tripe anywhere they are found."
HOTDOG
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:07 am
#5






Xoreshear wrote:





Ternque01 wrote:

Great story


Have you tried using Restraining Shot to snare them?


I would LOVE to hunt NS's, but I'm a Smuggler/Commando. I don't really have efficient weapons that pack a punch (oddly enough). I guess I could use my Plasma Flame Thrower on one, but that means getting within 25 meters of one.... yikes!







I am adding M Commando to my MS. Also Rifles 4xx4. Works great so far.






Waitaminute. Can you do that?


lessee... MS + MC + 2 lines of Rifles...Carry the one...DUDE! You CAN do this. OMG! This temp must ROCK!


Still keeping my MBH though however Wasodo on Starsider...








TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
SpinningCloud
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:29 am
#6


I spend 3 hours trying to get into the Genosian Labs solo by using Concussion shot then running past the 4 at the entrance. ItRARELY worked. I think I stunned maybe 1 out of 4 and it didn't seem to last more than 10-15 seconds.


Basically it sucked.





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HOTDOG
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:48 am
#7






SpinningCloud wrote:


I spend 3 hours trying to get into the Genosian Labs solo by using Concussion shot then running past the 4 at the entrance. ItRARELY worked. I think I stunned maybe 1 out of 4 and it didn't seem to last more than 10-15 seconds.


Basically it sucked.







Wait. What were you using? Which weapons- what shots?


I haven't been to the Geo labs since I was a Swordsman but I remember getting buried in a wave of bugs like in the middle chamber.


I might have to try that out-








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Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

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SpinningCloud
Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:55 am
#8

Using a DL44xt and Concussion shot...couldn't get past the first 4 genosians.




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Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
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MaleusGaryn
Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:37 pm
#9


I went to the Nightsister stronghold last night with my brother. He's a CM/SL/3xxxBH, I'm a Smug/BH/xxx4 Pistols. We took on four level 80-85 at once. I would hit one with CS, thenUnderhand the next and Panic her. Then Firearm strike and Panic and then CS the last. While my brother is putting his debuffs and DoTs on the first, I put CS on the two that only had Panic. Then as we beat the hell out of our one target, I would CS any of the others that broke loose. We mopped up the whole stronghold without a problem. Never got close to incap. I picked up a few NS lances, an Armor Attachment with +12 Healing Eff, a Mando Interframe and a Delicate Trigger Assembly.


We NEVER had to fight more than one target at a time. With two knockdowns (Underhand and Firearm Strike) a Root (Improved Stopping Shot) and two Dazes (CS and Panic), I kept all the targets under control. Once we had our focus on one and all the DoTs and Debuffs were on her, I would lead with Overwhelming Shot (not sure if it works), then Eye Shot, Confusion Shot, Torso Shot, Low Blow and Restraining Shot. With our Duelist Stance on, one NS couldn't do crap. Even the NS Elders at level 85. Advanced Critical and Reckless were my shots of choice in between states and dazes.


I have no doubt I could work my way through that place solo... it just goes MUCH faster with a friend. Coordinated efforts have their perks. If I was in there with an idiot shooting all my Dazed targets... I would have ended up in the cloner. We had a plan going in and it worked great.


Chaosxv279
Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:05 pm
#10


You do know that you're a smuggler right? Just pop a pixie, run past them and feign.


Or, if they are right on top of the door you need to slice (I can't remember, I've only been there like two times and one was running through to do the kashyyyk quest) get a friend to chase them away for you.




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Smuggler for life.
SpinningCloud
Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:53 pm
#11






Ternque01 wrote:
Yea, Spinning, are you using both concussion and panic shot?





I was only using Concussion but they didn't stay pacified long enough and it sure didn't seem like many of my shots hit. I'll try it again with both concussion and panic.




Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Two years of "Soon"(TM), a harsh bunch of lies.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie"

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Dancers can't smuggle and neither can I.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie, Why are there Jedi, I don't know why.
Ask me a riddle and I reply: "Smuggler, Smuggler, Smuggler Pie."

Drakenya
Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:15 am
#12

/praise HOTDOG

Nice to know someone else favors tactics over "brute force button mashing I win buttons".




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HOTDOG
Mon Jul 04, 2005 12:31 am
#13






SpinningCloud wrote:
Using a DL44xt and Concussion shot...couldn't get past the first 4 genosians.






Yeah, you are definitely gonna need an AoE in that instance or a VERY fast pistol so's you can turn CS around fast enough. But Another thought is that Panic Shot and CS are on differnt timers so you can alternate between them. It gives you considerably less time to get in but it should work.


What I can't remember is how far they can/will follow you in.


I DO remember going there solo and talking to my guildies on the guild chat back when I was a swordsman.

They were all 'Dude, You are SOOOOOOO Dead. You can't go down there by yourself. You will never get past those doors"


They were freaking out when I got as far as I did. My swordsman skills takin' care of the beasties and my Smuggler skills slicin' past the locks.






TEVIN STARGUNNER | WASODO T'GADIE

Rogue | Desperado | Demolitionist Short | Dark | Handsome

Master Smuggler | Master Bounty Hunter | Commando 0400 | Rebel Capt. Smuggler | Teras Kasi Artist | Unaffiliated
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