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Thread: Why do they always make things over complicated??

atone48732
Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:27 am
#1

indeed.. they need to bring back the old slicin system.. I MEAN THEY COULDA TWEAKED IT YA KNOW!! instead of givin us this BS



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Starphire
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:07 am
#2

So i was practicing the new slicing last night. I am sad to know smuggler will not longer be a crafter once spice is nerfed. Anyways...


So I notice you have to slice any given spec in ORDER. So you have to do it first without a kit, then with the generic kit, then you move up to level 4. Someone was saying, oh cool get two level 4 kits and do uber slices, but no you can't. Because by the time you go up the 4 levels in one spec, your outa customize points.


Once again they took something very simple and made it overly complicated.


I capped out the damage on a level 10 pistols with only the level 1 and two slices. Seems like if you have a good weapon smith who uses good resources, the upper level kits arn't even that nessicary.


I dunno, maybe it's just me.


I was talking to my husband last night and ya know, this game is/was so unique and cool, and its why i keep playing. But I always disapointed more and more over the way they handle publishes, not to mention the CH pet bug where now my Varaktly thingy has a 10 pt ham now. Loverly.


I just don't understand how they as a company can do things this way, I just don't get it. Why change ANYTHING if your going to break things every time. No offence, but the game must be coded really badly, to make it that difficult.


sorry, i know I should eat pie and shudap, but i just am so perplexed by all this.



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swg03
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:27 am
#3


complication makes a game last longer imho. I mean the whole crafting system is pretty complicated to the avarage noob.
this is a good thing. I mean sure I may take a bit to get used to, but hey... its all for the better.


I problem is just the fact thatthey are not craftable items any more. its been a while since I played a crafter, but I believe those kits were artisan made... with them being removed from their craft list... im sure that was a good money maker for non elite crafters. i'm just not sure i like the idea of the items being droped. especially with the fact that Lok has major issures with disappearing merc camps... where else can you farm the tools? unless they fix the dang camp bugs... this isnt going to be at all fun..




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Starphire
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:33 am
#4

well some of crafting is indeed over complicated, some of the most hard core crafters will just not make certain items because its to complex.


DE was a good example of this. To make a droid, you often had to have up to 5 levels of nested items. That's a lot of CRAP. I prefer to spend my time finding super good resources, then making parts upon parts upon parts. 3 levels of nested parts is more then enough.


I don't mind complexity, but just sometimes they get soooooooooooooooooooo insanly deep, newbs quit. I won't, but I know many who have.



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dlc3007
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:54 am
#5

This is not too complicated. I have customers who are very excited that they get to tweek their equipment. One was thrilled he could put mostly speed on his pike, mostly damage on his rifle, and pick the armor boosts that weren't already covered by his ADK.


They made slicing astoundingly more interesting and useful.





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Starphire
Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:57 am
#6

it IS over complicated, cause i say so.



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ClevtonRyles
Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:15 am
#7

I'm just wondering where the mini game went...


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atone48732
Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:27 am
#8

indeed.. they need to bring back the old slicin system.. I MEAN THEY COULDA TWEAKED IT YA KNOW!! instead of givin us this BS



Oelos Takushi: smuggler proud member of Oi and Smugglers alliance pilot..

Elalia Takushi: Dancer and rebel pilot and member of Oi
bring back TEras Kasi and the melee profs as expertise skills.. bring some fun and real diversification to SWG
TapVallian
Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:36 am
#9

I dunno..... I spent the whole day yesterday learning and playing with the new slicing system..... had so much fun I forgot to eat until 4pm (on vacation)! I love the new slicing system. Thats all I have to say about that.



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dlc3007
Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:57 am
#10




atone48732 wrote:

indeed.. they need to bring back the old slicin system.. I MEAN THEY COULDA TWEAKED IT YA KNOW!! instead of givin us this BS




Are you mad??? Go back to totally random? people whining about their low speed slices?


oh, I get it. you're joking, right? right??



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DigiDante
Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:58 am
#11



dlc3007 wrote:

atone48732 wrote:
indeed.. they need to bring back the old slicin system.. I MEAN THEY COULDA TWEAKED IT YA KNOW!! instead of givin us this BS
Are you mad??? Go back to totally random? people whining about their low speed slices?
oh, I get it. you're joking, right? right??





No I doubt he is joking. He is upset because many of our prayers are answered and that slicing is no longer a on the fly deal that everyone can partake in. He is upset that slicing now requires... COMPONENTS... albeit these components are looted.



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DigiDante
Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:00 am
#12



Starphire wrote:
it IS over complicated, cause i say so.





? How is reading and clicking a few buttons overly complicated?



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Everytime a Rollback or Additional server thread is spawned SOE murders a kitten. Please... think of the kittens and stop this erradication.
Jarkatoo
Thu Jun 30, 2005 11:06 am
#13

i like the new system, i just wish they would make it so i can actually get some components to play with, all my tools wont convert and all the npcs i been killing arent dropping anything.



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