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Thread: An open letter to the Devs about Smuggling. (Have a heart :( )
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maxtheusher
Sun Jul 10, 2005 8:58 am
#1
I think I can speak for the rest of us, when I say we'd like SOMETHING about the LAST and most important part of our "revamp," which is of course, the acutal Smuggling part. We heard from reliable sources that this part was in fact finished, mechanics wise, and was simply awaiting dialog to be written. If it is that far along, I don't see why you don't at least give us an In Development thread on it. I for one would really like to know if this thing we've all been waiting patiently for is going to bear any resemblance to what we have asked for, or barring that, at least resemble the IC thread that has vanished.
My concern, is that we have already received most of our "revamp," and after each bit of it, the next part became a little less important, because "Smugglers are already a full fledged profession because of the CU," Or at least that's how a correspondent at Fanfest interpreted what a Dev told them.
We've always wanted Smuggling to take precedence over any of our other skills. In the past we have even offered to give up slicing so long as we could smuggle. Since then we've become a combat class with the ability to craft buffs and use special looted powerups on guns. Apparently, at least the way it's been told, because of this, you don't feel that Smuggling is even really necessary for us. From a certain point of view, I can understand this. We are a fully capable profession, and Smuggling as we want it would give us far more than any other profession has available to them. We of course would prefer this smuggling to anything else, and would gladly give up slicing, and even part of our combat capability tog ain this. However, you are most likely going to give us a simple variation on Delivery missions, much as BH missions are a variation on Destroy missions, which was what was detailed in the IC thread. However since that IC has gone away, and since our profession hasn't been thinned out to the point where you could present a fair case for real true Smuggling, you can understand my concern.
So, please, I'm not asking for a when. I'm not asking for the EXACT system, I'd just like some vague general idea of what our smuggling missions will be like. Or tell us NOW that we aren't getting them. I don't want to waste my time waiting for them.
Hey Wes, any word in the C-forums about any of this? Could you maybe try and get some? I know they only tell you what they want but I'm starting to worry about Smuggling.
My concern, is that we have already received most of our "revamp," and after each bit of it, the next part became a little less important, because "Smugglers are already a full fledged profession because of the CU," Or at least that's how a correspondent at Fanfest interpreted what a Dev told them.
We've always wanted Smuggling to take precedence over any of our other skills. In the past we have even offered to give up slicing so long as we could smuggle. Since then we've become a combat class with the ability to craft buffs and use special looted powerups on guns. Apparently, at least the way it's been told, because of this, you don't feel that Smuggling is even really necessary for us. From a certain point of view, I can understand this. We are a fully capable profession, and Smuggling as we want it would give us far more than any other profession has available to them. We of course would prefer this smuggling to anything else, and would gladly give up slicing, and even part of our combat capability tog ain this. However, you are most likely going to give us a simple variation on Delivery missions, much as BH missions are a variation on Destroy missions, which was what was detailed in the IC thread. However since that IC has gone away, and since our profession hasn't been thinned out to the point where you could present a fair case for real true Smuggling, you can understand my concern.
So, please, I'm not asking for a when. I'm not asking for the EXACT system, I'd just like some vague general idea of what our smuggling missions will be like. Or tell us NOW that we aren't getting them. I don't want to waste my time waiting for them.
Hey Wes, any word in the C-forums about any of this? Could you maybe try and get some? I know they only tell you what they want but I'm starting to worry about Smuggling.
AngusMacGregor
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:03 am
#2
I'll keep bumping this until we get an answer.
But I get the feeling I'll be bumping this a very long time.
MaleusGaryn
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:03 am
#3
I'd like a little bone too. I'd give up slicing for smuggling. Anything would help... even just a post from a Dev telling us the basic outline of the plan. No timeframe, no specifics.... just the basic plan for the Smuggling system. Or a dev/corr telling us "That's all folks".
WesBelden
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:22 am
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maxtheusher wrote:
Hey Wes, any word in the C-forums about any of this? Could you maybe try and get some? I know they only tell you what they want but I'm starting to worry about Smuggling.
Tried, to no avail I'm afraid. I'll ask again when Tiggs gets back from her vacation, maybe she and/or the team will be more forthcoming, who knows?
I'll direct her to this post as well incase she wants to comment.
GanymedePharuu
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:49 am
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WesBelden wrote:
maxtheusher wrote:
Hey Wes, any word in the C-forums about any of this? Could you maybe try and get some? I know they only tell you what they want but I'm starting to worry about Smuggling.
Tried, to no avail I'm afraid. I'll ask again when Tiggs gets back from her vacation, maybe she and/or the team will be more forthcoming, who knows?
I'll direct her to this post as well incase she wants to comment.
ohh that's right, Tiggs was up in New Joisey this weekend... she was hosting an informal meet up andi would've liked to go since i'm not too far from there. but come on... you really think that would've helped?
i would've gottenhammered and startedsobbing about how the lack of potential fulfillment inthis game makes me so very sad
GanymedePharuu
Sun Jul 10, 2005 9:50 am
#7
oh yeah and i would also like to know anything about the Smuggling mission system... even if they just say "you're not getting it". i'd still like to know.
Antonnio
Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:07 am
#8
Perhaps... Tiggs will come back from her trip all happy and relaxed, and she will be in a good mood and start listening to us and start helping us out!
Hey, a guy can dream can't he? Good Post Max.
Hey, a guy can dream can't he? Good Post Max.
Qojan
Sun Jul 10, 2005 10:49 am
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I agree, anything would be nice, they (the Devs) already havetaking my easy way to make money in the game, (slicing, and selling the tools)I'm not even sure why i'm a smuggler anymore, I dont slice anymore and I CANT smuggle, my DPS in combat is noware as high as a pistoler or carbiner, and frankly the uniqueness of being a Smuggler is starting to wear thin. I mean whats the point anymore, I'm really starting to question the Devs and the direction thier moving the game, I dont want to be a jedi, I want to be a smuggler. There has only been two professions I have wanted to play, Smuggler and Creature Handler. Right now I'm both but to be a Smuggler just for the title is not what I want, I could gainbetter combat skills with another ranged profession. Anyway rant off.
/emote Qojan grabs some beer and pie and goes into a cornner and plays with hes pets.
Antonnio
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:01 am
#10
I never understood this:
Luke Skywalker = Star of the original trilogy = Jedi
Han Solo = Co-Star of the Original Trilogy = Smuggler
Leia Organa = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Politician???
Chewbacca = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Engineer, Droid Engineer, A Little Shipwright...
If this is the order of importance of professions in the movies, why do Smugglers get no respect in this game?
This game takes place in a time when BH and Smugglers were taking advantage of the GCW and the injustices, the system of this game makes no sense where this whole underground concept is being ignored.
Luke Skywalker = Star of the original trilogy = Jedi
Han Solo = Co-Star of the Original Trilogy = Smuggler
Leia Organa = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Politician???
Chewbacca = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Engineer, Droid Engineer, A Little Shipwright...
If this is the order of importance of professions in the movies, why do Smugglers get no respect in this game?
This game takes place in a time when BH and Smugglers were taking advantage of the GCW and the injustices, the system of this game makes no sense where this whole underground concept is being ignored.
Message Edited by Antonnio on 07-10-2005 11:02 AM
GanymedePharuu
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:30 am
#12
Antonnio wrote:
I never understood this:
Luke Skywalker = Star of the original trilogy = Jedi
Han Solo = Co-Star of the Original Trilogy = Smuggler
Leia Organa = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Politician???
Chewbacca = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Engineer, Droid Engineer, A Little Shipwright...
If this is the order of importance of professions in the movies, why do Smugglers get no respect in this game?
This game takes place in a time when BH and Smugglers were taking advantage of the GCW and the injustices, the system of this game makes no sense where this whole underground concept is being ignored.
Message Edited by Antonnio on 07-10-2005 11:02 AM
it's because Chewbacca lives on Endor... right Joras?
Vampiric_Hoshi
Sun Jul 10, 2005 11:48 am
#13
"Luke Skywalker = Star of the original trilogy = Jedi
Han Solo = Co-Star of the Original Trilogy = Smuggler
Leia Organa = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Politician???
Chewbacca = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Engineer, Droid Engineer, A Little Shipwright..."
Han Solo = Co-Star of the Original Trilogy = Smuggler
Leia Organa = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Politician???
Chewbacca = Supporting Star of the Original Trilogy = Engineer, Droid Engineer, A Little Shipwright..."
Things never get changed because of that first "Jedi" word. Everytime they change Jedi someone complains so whatever plans they had for their next publish get thrown out the window and get replaced with yet another change to Jedi. After a year of doing this they will eventualy do whatever they said they would, but because its been pushed back pushed back pushed back so many times they wind up telling someone like GreenMarine 2 days before a publish is due "Oh yeah and by the way, remember that slicing mini game you make an in-concept post about? Well we told them you've actually done it and its gonna be in this next publish so be a good boy and glue a feather to an apple and hand to them with a "This is a new slicing tool" tag on it will ya? That'll shut them up".
Same goes with the smuggling missions. GreenMarine says he's done it, maybe he has, but he won't be allowed to actually get a barebone into a full flesh until 2 days before its supposed to be released because they have him doing some change to Jedi so it'll end up being another apple with a feather glued to it.
Look through each publish notes. Tell me, since the major Jedi change a year ago, when there has been a publish not centering around some kind of Jedi change? Even the JTL and ROTW publishes had serious Jedi changes in them.
Until the devs finaly give up with whatever it is they are trying to do with Jedi and actually sit back and look at the REST of the game, this star wars "experience" will be nothing more than "wow a Wookiee holding a lightsabre. Now what I do?"
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