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Darth73Infamous
Mon Nov 22, 2004 5:52 pm
#1
How would you feel if Feign Death became a Pistol-Specific Special? All of the other specials in the Dirty Fighting line are specific to pistols, and this would not subtract anything from a Smuggler's arsenal?
NickHeel
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:17 pm
#2
So what are you saying? Pistol specific? You mean...have a pistol equipped to perform FD or stick FD in Pistoleer or what?
The thing is, we don't want just pistol moves for Dirty Fighting. We'd like moves that justify our prereqs or make the prereqs dynamic.
Personally, I'll still with Unarmed and Pistol and if we were to get Unarmed moves in Dirty Fighting, I'd still like to be able to feign death if I was going to pull a dirty street fighting move and decided I wanted to fake getting hit.
So, no, it would make no sense. No offense, just saying there's no justification for it. But seeing as how you're a BH (with an illegal name at that heh), I image you have issues with Jedi using the skill to stay alive. Assuming that, I must say that we shouldn't be nerfed or gimped on our skills because of the prostitution of said skills by Jedi and BHs alike.
LaughingWolf
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:23 pm
#3
Meaning Feign Death would only work if you have a pistol equiped? How could it be? After you hit Feign Death, it is activated when you take damage, not when you shoot, so I do not see how it could become pistol (or weapon for that matter) specific. Nor do I see the logic, you can pretend to fall over dead no matter the weapon in your hands.
And I think what a lot of peoples want is for Smugglers to no longer be confined to pistol, weapon wise. Your suggestion goes against that.
This is of course entirely my personal opinion.
And I think what a lot of peoples want is for Smugglers to no longer be confined to pistol, weapon wise. Your suggestion goes against that.
This is of course entirely my personal opinion.
NickHeel
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:43 pm
#5
I think it's cause, as a Bounty Hunter, he wants the skill out of the hands of the Jedi. He thinks that because he's a BH and he'll be spamming Eye Shot or Last Ditch or something and he can Feign Death whenever he wants to, but because the Jedi would be most-likely holding a Lightsaber, the Jedi wouldn't be able to Feign Death on him.
So to solve the Bounty Hunter's problem of the Jedi using Feign Death, he wants to nerf the skill and our profession to suit his needs. It's not our problem, it's the Dev's problem. So resolve the issue, not the skill.
Akiram_Glockem
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:43 pm
#6
Since this is basically a suggestion to keep jedi from feigning, it would be better to just make it so you can't feign with a lightsaber equiped.
Darth73Infamous
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:54 pm
#7
Assuming is a bad thing, I'm a pure MBH. Think whatever you'd like but I just wanted to know your opinion if something like this happened, personally I agree more with what the first person replied.
NickHeel wrote:
I think it's cause, as a Bounty Hunter, he wants the skill out of the hands of the Jedi. He thinks that because he's a BH and he'll be spamming Eye Shot or Last Ditch or something and he can Feign Death whenever he wants to, but because the Jedi would be most-likely holding a Lightsaber, the Jedi wouldn't be able to Feign Death on him.
So to solve the Bounty Hunter's problem of the Jedi using Feign Death, he wants to nerf the skill and our profession to suit his needs. It's not our problem, it's the Dev's problem. So resolve the issue, not the skill.
NickHeel
Mon Nov 22, 2004 6:55 pm
#8
Or just move Feign Death to Master Smuggler along with some sort of Escape Shot that delays the target and the Smuggler for 20 seconds.
Bump Panic Shot to DF 1 and establish the 10 seconds delay, add some sort of mods at DF 2, and sprinkle some unarmed moves up and down the line and maybe master.
If they want this awesome skill that can save a life, put it in the Master's box if it's so powerfull. If a FS/Jedi or a BH wants to Master Smuggler to get it, fine with me. But using 69 skill points for just that skill should tell you that it needs to be moved.
NickHeel
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:00 pm
#9
Darth73Infamous wrote:
Assuming is a bad thing, I'm a pure MBH. Think whatever you'd like but I just wanted to know your opinion if something like this happened, personally I agree more with what the first person replied.
Actually, "assumptions are the mother of all phuck ups". But I digress.
You are right, the first person to reply to this thread is right. Let's stick with his idea, ok? /shakehand?
Darth73Infamous
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:10 pm
#10
NickHeel wrote:
Darth73Infamous wrote:
Assuming is a bad thing, I'm a pure MBH. Think whatever you'd like but I just wanted to know your opinion if something like this happened, personally I agree more with what the first person replied.
Actually, "assumptions are the mother of all phuck ups". But I digress.
You are right, the first person to reply to this thread is right. Let's stick with his idea, ok? /shakehand?
/nod
Orcajum
Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:53 pm
#12
Darth73Infamous wrote:
*snip*...personally I agree more with what the first person replied.
Yeah, God N'joh.. you need to be less critical and emulate that first responder
I'm not entirely sure what his name was, but he must be a genious.
LaughingWolf
Mon Nov 22, 2004 8:03 pm
#13
If DF is deem too powerful to be left too easilly in the hand of dabblers, I like the idea of moving it up in the Dirty Fighting tree (or even to the Master box). It would solve that problem neatly without penalising us. And if moved to the Master box it would give something else to encourage peoples to go Master Smuggler asside from better slice.
And IF we move it to the Master box, that mean we would need something else to fill up that now empty Dirty Fighting box...
BTW, if the "first responder" refered to is me, it is "she" , not he.
And IF we move it to the Master box, that mean we would need something else to fill up that now empty Dirty Fighting box...
BTW, if the "first responder" refered to is me, it is "she" , not he.
Message Edited by LaughingWolf on 11-22-2004 10:13 PM
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