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Thread: Does the Smuggler have a role in combat? None that I can see.

Redleg13
Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:54 am
#1

The old question (brown texted copied from forum) and answer, but is it true?



What is a Smuggler's role in combat?

Smugglers are designed to be the top crowd control profession in the game. At the moment they fall short of that considerabley, but the future will hopefully bring with it change for the better. (What future is that part of the mythical smuggler revamp promised just after launch and still in development.)


What are crowd control and mezing?

Crowd Control is a form of combat that focuses on causing problems for an enemy, rather than destroying them outright; this may be in the form of restricting or stopping their movement, lowering their accuracey, rate of fire etc. as well as preventing them from attacking.


Mezzing is short hand for mesmerising and in game terms means keeping your enemies from acting, i.e. moving to attack you.


But there is not crowd control or damage dealing:


Cuncussion shot is only good to escape since as soon as the target is damage by another shot the effect is gone, in group setting that is simultanous. So use it and run away. Not much crowd support there. The other option is fiegn death, but even at the master level it only works about 50% of the time.


The smuggler / pistoleer had in the pre CU days Last ditch which was a very powerful. With CU it is useless except for maybe in PvP where doing 4K damage might mean something. PvE that does nothing if you are at 1% when you finish. Most of the time, I have been incapped while trying to use it, because to get the value you have to be well near done in.


Oh yes we (smuggler) pistols range 35 meters. Does not take long for you anything to close with and destroy you. You can use other weapons that let you have stand off but it does not provide the crowd control bennie. I have been reduced to the tank since it is rare to find a multi-80 level group on the server. Lucky if there are two of us and that is if you go a grinding on dantonie.


I am tired of empty words and promises. The CU which I did not support as implemented was marginal as orginally designed and but keeping the jedi PvP crowd happy has meant that the role players, crafters, play economist et al were offered up as the fodder.


Can the game even survive. Several other MOOGs are dying is that happening here?



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Kav
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:21 pm
#2

I was about to post a bunch o stuff..but i am lazy: Smugglers in Combat

Message Edited by Kav on 08-08-2005 04:22 PM



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Makris
Mon Aug 08, 2005 1:25 pm
#3


Our role is strictly sarcasm.
Balatro1
Mon Aug 08, 2005 2:53 pm
#4

Yes we have...

1) area states.
2) area mezzes.
3) taking the piss out of peolpe in pvp while they are conccusioned. /conccussion, /hug, /preen self, /afk, have a drink, go to toliet. Then come back and finsih them off.

I usaully get shouts of who the hell has stuned/intimdated/root/snared/blinded the lair/rebels. Smuggler/pistol/commando truely goes hand in hand.



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HOTDOG
Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:13 pm
#5

Idunno. I think Smuggler kicks ass in combat.


I might not control when the fight starts- but I can end it. Pause it. Back up and choose who dies first. Or just split and stick my tounge out as I speed away.


There is a reason that Jedi and BHs ask to have us nerfed every other week, you know.








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gassygunslinger
Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:21 pm
#6


Our concussion shot isn't just for running... Its used to take on three of an enemy that you could only just solo... You mez two of them, and attack only one at a time... Simple! Also, if you have some healing (I have CM 4000) you can pretend to be god! "Bwahahaha! You shall stop in your tracks! Bwa! You shalt go no further! Hah! I shalt hinder your movement! Hah! Your attacks do little! Watch as I heal them away! Mmwahahaha!"


Message Edited by gassygunslinger on 08-08-2005 03:23 PM



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Vrond
Mon Aug 08, 2005 5:16 pm
#7

In mass PVP as a Smuggler with some pistoleer for even more states I am always in the vanguard group putting states on the the the enemies group.It boggles my mind that some one could even ask this question.



Vrond Novawolf
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Ternque01
Mon Aug 08, 2005 6:00 pm
#8

My guild did the MINER'S QUEST in the Death Watch Bunker with only NINE people. Imagine going to the absolute bottom of the DWB then back up again about FIVE or so times.


Having a smuggler to keep enemies mezzed down there is a NECESSITY.


In PvP, my smuggler skills ROCK. If I don't concussion shot you then pull out my bike and tell you to kiss my butt, then I'm laying Low Blow on people to slow their attack speed and snaring them. If all else fails, and I'm being jumped by about 5 imps... Feign Death for the win.


Smuggler is AWESOME in combat, escpecially when used well with commando.





Axob Freelight
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dlc3007
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:01 am
#9

I like pie



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Makris
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:02 am
#10


I like pie and beer
Ihovo
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:19 am
#11

I like beerpie!
DoMakk
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:29 am
#12


Perhaps you're doing something wrong? My hunting friends LOVE having me around. Never mind I'm CL 56 and most of them are 80's...when they're planning "Okay, we've got a doc, we've got a tank...and we've got a MEZZER!"


I keep things from getting too crazy. "Whoops, they're social! DoM!" "I'm on it..mez...mez...mez..." So we get to take things nice and easy, one at a time. Bam, bam, bam.


And you can apply concussion with a rifle too, silli.



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SmithingWeapons
Tue Aug 09, 2005 12:48 am
#13

Smuggler commando's are an awesome combo.



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