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Thread: Is reckless shot working as intended? Please read!
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Fitzhume
Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:54 am
#1
The description for reckless shot is that it places a defensive penalty on the target. Right now, the icon for the defensive penalty is placed on the smuggler who uses it.. not the target that you are firing at. I also checked my combat log, and the damage I was taking rose when I used reckless shot, proving that the smuggler is the one who recieves the defensive penalty.
Is the special not working properly or is the description simply wrong? If its the latter.. I don't see why any profession is rewarded at the Master level with a special that has a negative effect for the person who uses it.
Is the special not working properly or is the description simply wrong? If its the latter.. I don't see why any profession is rewarded at the Master level with a special that has a negative effect for the person who uses it.
Message Edited by Fitzhume on 07-24-2005 11:00 AM
Boydsan
Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:13 am
#2
Reckless shot is supposed to put a penalty on the user. Hense the term "reckless"... it's supposed to represent a desperate attempt by the user to inflict more damage on the target, making the user more open to retaliation.
Fitzhume
Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:45 am
#3
Boydsan wrote:
Reckless shot is supposed to put a penalty on the user. Hense the term "reckless"... it's supposed to represent a desperate attempt by the user to inflict more damage on the target, making the user more open to retaliation.
So the description is just wrong? That may be the case.. and I see your point. But when I think of a "desperate attempt by the user to inflict more damage", I think of Last Ditch.
If this was the case and that reckless shot was a higher damage output special with a penalty cost.. that would somewhat understandable. But rifleman specials have higher damage modifiers, so this attack is not really THAT powerful. Also.. what other basic damage attack do smuggler's have aside from reckless shot? If the only shot used for pure damage output has a defensive penalty for using it.. thats a little bit harsh no?
mds248
Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:52 am
#4
Fitzhume wrote:
Boydsan wrote:
Reckless shot is supposed to put a penalty on the user. Hense the term "reckless"... it's supposed to represent a desperate attempt by the user to inflict more damage on the target, making the user more open to retaliation.
So the description is just wrong? That may be the case.. and I see your point. But when I think of a "desperate attempt by the user to inflict more damage", I think of Last Ditch.
If this was the case and that reckless shot was a higher damage output special with a penalty cost.. that would somewhat understandable. But rifleman specials have higher damage modifiers, so this attack is not really THAT powerful. Also.. what other basic damage attack do smuggler's have aside from reckless shot? If the only shot used for pure damage output has a defensive penalty for using it.. thats a little bit harsh no?
Smuggler is not meant to be a high damage dealing profession. State effects are a Smuggler's speciality.
If you read the description for Reckless Shot in Delinquency I, it says, "Used as a last resort this ability unleashes a large barrage of shots at the target. This attack will place you in a very vulnerable position and causesa defensive penalty to the attacker."
"Attacker" = you, the smuggler, not your target.
Improved and advanced do say "target," but it's not the first typo in the game...
Message Edited by mds248 on 07-24-2005 01:55 PM
Fitzhume
Sun Jul 24, 2005 10:59 am
#5
Just checked that out too.. oh well. I guess its just a stupid special imho.
I think its more accurate to say that smugglers specialty is modifying, not state effects.. since we dont have a stun/blind/kd/dizzy attack.
I think its more accurate to say that smugglers specialty is modifying, not state effects.. since we dont have a stun/blind/kd/dizzy attack.
Tasomo
Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:39 am
#6
To be honest, it's a smugglers absolute worst special. It's our most damaging attack (Last Ditch only fires once a year, so we're not including that), yet it only does 20-30 pts more damage than Pistoleer's Body Shot from Nov Pistols, plus it slaps us with a hefty negative to our defence.
Xoreshear
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:02 pm
#7
If you are a pure Smuggler and want or have to KD something that has gotten too close the lowbie firearm strike will still do it. Use it all the time myself. You can then fire offadv reckless to get the extra damage from the mob being down thento imp restraining shot while moving away if you want to kite, or just drop panic or concussion shot til you get 35m away then start firing again.
Message Edited by Xoreshear on 07-24-2005 09:06 PM
Nicolas_Frost
Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:34 pm
#8
Reckless Shot is best used when your taking a negative defence modifier can be mitigated, or when you're willing to take the modifier because it might be the final shot fired.
Best special to use prior to Reckless Shot: Intimidate Shot, lowers your attacker's damage potential so its about even(against you) when you use Reckless Shot.
Best special to use prior to Reckless Shot: Intimidate Shot, lowers your attacker's damage potential so its about even(against you) when you use Reckless Shot.
Rogue135
Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:31 pm
#9
As far as I'm concerned Reckless Shot is the most useless special we get, took it off my toolbar nearly a month ago and haven't looked back. If anything, reckless or not, it shouldn't hurt the user more than the target.
Nicolas_Frost
Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:58 pm
#10
Well, you should probably take Last Ditch off the bar as well. 
NewPlayerTutorial
Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:15 pm
#11
I could understand a defensive penalty if it was actually a high damage modifier. But its not. Nothing close to a 1.7dmg mod with crit or a straight power hit.
KureJiBaka
Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:46 am
#12
I was fooled by the description too. I used to use it and Critical Shot to keep a steady stream of damage going, and when I finally caught on I stopped and wondered just what WE ever did to the Developers.
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