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Myn_Opias

Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:10 am

As the title says, I was thinking about our requirements: Brawler 4xxx, Marksman x4xx, Being able to keep some form of patience while getting shafted by the Devs, etc.

And I was thinking: why in high heaven do we need Unarmed 4? Wouldn't it be easier for us to have Ranged Support? Most Smugglers are Pistoleers, although I'm a Rifleman, and it seems like a MASSIVE waste of skill points, which personally I could be using for medic or some Pistoleer specials.

I'm M Smuggler, M Rifles, Pistoleer xxx3, and Novice Medic. Oh, and Enhanced Reflexes x4xx. The only reason I keep Smuggler is because I quite enjoy it, but I can't think of any specials whatsoever that are useful. Concussion Shot is now useless, all our delay attacks last 2 seconds, so we're completely screwed there, and there's virtually nothing else.

Because of this, I have to use Pistoleer specials for my root, but where do the skill points come from? I need medic for when I'm grinding and need to heal small amounts of damage without wasting my stims.

When was the last time any of you used the Brawler specials though? If it were ranged Support, I could get an extra 29 spare points to put into Pistoleer or medic.

In case you're wondering why I'm bothering with this thread, I'm in hospital an extra day coz they lost my drip so I'm just bored

Any thoughts?

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Tante

Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:14 am

#2

Well talking about the requirements is okay, but ranged support is not what I'd say belongs to a smuggler (Pistols+Ranged Support makes a Pistoleer).

If we say that we should be able to win a bar fight we should get Melee specials and bonuses to justify that requirement.

If we go more into the slicing department/spice crafting artisan comes to mind.

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Myn_Opias

Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:21 am

#3

Tante wrote:
Well talking about the requirements is okay, but ranged support is not what I'd say belongs to a smuggler (Pistols+Ranged Support makes a Pistoleer).

If we say that we should be able to win a bar fight we should get Melee specials and bonuses to justify that requirement.

If we go more into the slicing department/spice crafting artisan comes to mind.

Fair point But saying that, when did Han Solo use Center of Being and do some Melee Strikes on Greedo

Agreed on the Artisan, but keep in mind that Spices are fixed values, whereas Artisan varies according to the Exp and Assembly Points.

If not Ranged Support, then maybe something else....perhaps medic since Smugglers are meant to mostly work solo so need to be able to tend their own wounds...

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Iawo

Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:22 am

#4

A lot of prerequisites under the CU system don't make any sense whatsoever. I wish they'd just drop all elite professions down to a single line. If they did that, people could play what they wanted to play to have fun, not play what they have to in orderto hit level 80and havesome medical skills.

Message Edited by Iawo on 08-04-2005 08:23 AM

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Myn_Opias

Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:25 am

#5

Iawo wrote:

A lot of prerequisites under the CU system don't make any sense whatsoever. I wish they'd just drop all elite professions down to a single line. If they did that, people could play what they wanted to play to have fun, not play what they have to in orderto hit level 80and havesome medical skills.

Message Edited by Iawo on 08-04-2005 08:23 AM

Yeah agreed, we're supposed to be able to do what we like on this game but we're limited so much...

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newbExtraordinaire

Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:46 am

#6

*Grumbles* I hate it when people say concussion shot is useless. It doesn't do any damage, true. It breaks on damage, yeah. But smuggler is a crowd control proffesion, made for grouped combat, and if you use it correctly you can be extremely effective in a group. If you want to be able to solo stuff, smuggler isn't the way to go. Unless of course you have all the time in the world. I can win a duel against a master bounty hunter/master carabineer, and I'm Master Smuggler/master pistoleer, but it takes a long time (and most of the time my opponent ends the duel before I get to bang him up).
Like I said, smuggler is crowd control, and for crowd control, concussion shot is awesome (as is panic shot, lowblow, warning shot, reckless shot, restraining shot and so on and so forth)

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Tante

Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:07 am

#7

I agree with Ailoovi. If you do stuff in groups smuggler is great (like combat medic). Only soloing does not work as easy as it was.

Yes I soloed Gorax and Krayt too while Concussion Shot was broken, but now I can rely on the group to do damage, I only decide whom to fight, less stress

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Myn_Opias

Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:58 am

#8

As one of two Rebels in a very small Imperial guild, I work almost always soloing, which is why I still need my root (not to mention that when the guild does do something in groups I'm a very highly valued part with root and added range)

Like I said, I only keep Smuggler because I enjoy it, it's a nice profession to have with lots of potential. Now fair enough, Concussion Shot is not completely useless. E.g. I was with two guildies hunting Kimogilas, and we stumbled across 3 of them. So our Ranger picked a target, aggroed them, then I used Stopping Shot to root one of them in place, used Concussion Shot on the second, then hit the Stopped one enough times to get his aggro, and while he was still rooted, attacked the other one. So I aggroed both of them, used feign death, and they went away so I could help finish off the first Kimo. But it just doesn't work as effectively as before.

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KenjiTokugawa

Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:58 am

#9

Myn_Opias wrote:

Fair point But saying that, when did Han Solo use Center of Being and do some Melee Strikes on Greedo

Han did beat the snot out of that one scout trooper in RotJ without a shot fired

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Antonnio

Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:01 am

#10

There aren't many fist fighting scenes in the original trilogy... but Han Solo does fight a Scout Trooper in Return of the Jedi using his fists. Han Solo = Smuggler, Han Solo fist fighting = Smuggler Fist Fighting...

.: Smuggler's fight with their hands when necessary.

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Antonnio

Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:02 am

#11

KenjiTokugawa beat me to it...

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Myn_Opias

Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:12 am

#12

If they put a /hurlovershoulder command in, I'll stop complaining

After all Han Solo didnt exactly try punching his face in

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Lonelan

Thu Aug 04, 2005 3:02 pm

#13

KenjiTokugawa wrote:

Myn_Opias wrote:

Fair point But saying that, when did Han Solo use Center of Being and do some Melee Strikes on Greedo

Han did beat the snot out of that one scout trooper in RotJ without a shot fired

Han stepped on a twig. He needed more scout skills. Then he got backhanded, the trooper told the guy to go for help, and then Han took the guy to the ground. Han's a great example of why we need some unarmed specials. Howabout an unarmed KD and an unarmed stun?

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