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Thread: Smuggling legends, smuggling noobs, funny smugglers, grouchy smugglers, smelly smugglers

tralita_tusnami
Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:03 pm
#1


I have said a few things in the last week that I might not be totally happy with how I said them, reading back on them. Especially after reading MANY reply’s to what I wrote, I realize that many couldn’t care less, and many are more upset at me for standing on a box and preaching. For this I’m sorry. But am I sorry for having a passion for this profession or game, hell no, neither should you.


01-27-2004 11:27 AM that’s the date and time I became a MASTER SMUGGLER. I logged out and logged into this forum and created my forum account. I had started PLAYING the game on September 22 2003 at around 8pm I know this cause it was my birth day. I have been very happy posting small inconsequential posts, as many of you rack up huge totals of posts I have not even posted more than like 20 times in a week. Why does this matter, just because you have not seen my name being as vocal about anything as you does not mean that I dislike you as a person, or that I am in no way not a vet of this forum.


2 weeks ago, I started posting just about everywhere "SMUGGLERS WANT TO SMUGGLE" and got a 7-day ban after a few posts were deleted. Was this ban unwarranted? Maybe, maybe not. On Tuesday of this week I was horrified to find that a macro that I had emailed in game became the Tuesday TIP. I was furious and in a craze. Many of you were also pissed that it was a slap in the face of smugglers everywhere. I was doubly pissed, cause it was like a slap in the face and a punch to the gut to me, I felt singled out, by the DEV’s. Did I want to have that attention? No. Did I get it? Yes did the DEV’s talk to me because of it? Yes. Will they continue to talk to us in the future? God I hope so.


YES I have read the history threads, actually many times, and its just so cliché to say, "If you don’t know the past, you’re doomed to repeat it." I have had since Wednesday morning about 12 emails sent to me from DEV’s and I have written them back. Yesterday I decided after I had a few days to cool down that, yes we have been screwed, but yes they are talking to us. Believe it or not they do care, and have feelings, after all they are just human JUST LIKE US.


I’m a big girl and can take being called a kiss a** or a brown nosier. Sticks and stones so they say. But when there is a dialogue going on between a few people, and someone has apologized and expressed that yes there has been wrong doing in the past, which should be the end of it. Later people come in and try to hold this person accountable YET AGAIN for the actions he has admitted to doing. It very much like beating a dead horse, yes they know the history, yes they are sorry, no they wont answer questions of why this was done. But they are also TALKING to us, which is more than they have really done in a long time.


I’m just like many of you, but I'm also a person that can forgive. Might just be a coincidence that the DEV’s stopped posting in that thread when people starting attacking them with history posts and demanding answers. I do not know for sure, but I know how I would feel if someone did that to me. Call me a noob who cares, but don’t ever doubt for a second that I would love to have Smuggling in this game just as much as the next girl or guy.


Yes I do believe that having a POSITIVE attitude in your posts is important. Does it make a difference? I don’t know, I feel it does. Does seeing this game stagnate and die because of an alpha class hurt YES. The most fun I ever had was defending Bestine in raids from wankerhead or holding smuggler events on my server.


Again I’m sorry for being a royal B***H




_____________________________________________________
Some aspire to be the best, Thunderheart aspires to be just like me
"I may look like an Ewok, but I'm all Wookie where it counts, baby."

Tralita Tusnami
Bria server
MASTER SMUGLER/BOUNTY HUNTER/PISTOLER
Drareg
Sat Aug 13, 2005 1:24 pm
#2

Someone finally gets it.....
/offer beer and pie....lots of beer and pie.
/salute



_________________________________________
Drareg Townsend: Novice smuggler from Starsider.
You heard right: Just novice.
Kelko
Sat Aug 13, 2005 2:53 pm
#3


Tral, As we have spoken about before, I respect you views and approach on the situation and all I ask is the same in return. The plain and brutally honest truth is that what is going on now is no different than what has been going on for the last two years. You say that you have read the timeline many times so you know that this is not the first time that we have been in a constructive communication process with the devs, yet we are no closer. I am no longer listening to what they say, there is no longer any reason for dialogue. The Community has posted ideas and dialogue for the last two years. The devs can easily go back and pull from that to see what we have been asking for the last two years. I personally am not going to waste my effort talking about ideas when we have two years worth of them. They have also stated numerous times that we are "high on their priority list" in some form or another, yet once again herewe are. The devs and SOE, I repeat the Devs and SOE, are the only ones responsible for constructing this wall of distrust and the only way, for me at least, to start to tear down that wall will be nothing short of action on the devs part. Not words, not promises, not dialogue of ideas, but straight and undeniable action. Then and only then will I begin to consider entering into a constructive dialogue with the devs. Until then there are plenty of good ideas they can pull from should they need ideas, and until then I will continue my campaign as I have started. You can hate me for it, you can respect me for, you can feel however you feel towards me about it but it makes no different, I absolutely will not heed until the Devs and SOE start to actually do something. I will not heed until I am able to go onto the test center and begin testing something viable.


I would just like to leave you with a thought. How long do you consider an acceptable amount of time to follow a course of constructive dialogue before you decide enough is enough? 2, 3, 4 years?





SWG+PUB 19+CU+NGE = Crap
yimaz
Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:16 pm
#4






tralita_tusnami wrote:....................






I don't like being told what to do when I've been doing it for a long time, yes I have a ton of posts, yes Im a troll but I've also spent hours and hours offering up great ideas for smuggler and many of the truly upset people are the same way. You think we don't know the Dev's are people? You don't think we know that at times their hands are tied? You think your the only one to talk toor work with the Dev's?When you tell a community one thing and do another time and time and time and time and time again the people in the thick of it get sick of it.



I have no problem with you in fact I have always tried to be upbeat in all of my posts as well. With the exception of the last month or so I and many of thep*ssed offwere just like you but after years of BS we just cant sit by and say OK lets play nice and maybe the Dev's will work on smuggler, it wont happen. They will get to it when they get to it and at this point they 'ant getting to it anytime soon if at all and yet again. It's the same story from last year and from the year before and from beta, it never changes and it never stops.



I wish I felt the way you do the way I did a long time ago....... I don't and the people who spent hours, days and weeks work on smuggler doc's that the dev's asked for, the people who got excited about doc's that were posted for smuggling then pulledand thepeople and Dev's who leftbecause of it have a right to be mad and don't need to hear someone tell them to calm down.


If you have truly been here for a long time you would have seen all the people who are gone and all the people who are upset were the ones who help make this the best community on the SWG forums. If seeing them go from being upbeat to hating SOE is not a tell tale sign of how we have been treated then you don't know your history and while it is a cliche it needs to be said time and time again cause some people don't get it.



Sorry if this comes off harsh I don't mean it to be, you seem cool and I respect you standing your ground. Just remember the people who are upset were just like you at one point that alone tells me you don't know the whole history of this forum or the Smuggler profession,

Message Edited by yimaz on 08-14-2005 12:18 AM



Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

tralita_tusnami
Sat Aug 13, 2005 9:49 pm
#5

Yimaz, my post was jsut an appology, for being as passionate as I am. Im not saying others arnt passionate. It was an appology for MY shortcomings, if you are mad at me for my appology there is nothing I can do, I actualy didnt think anyone would respond to it.



_____________________________________________________
Some aspire to be the best, Thunderheart aspires to be just like me
"I may look like an Ewok, but I'm all Wookie where it counts, baby."

Tralita Tusnami
Bria server
MASTER SMUGLER/BOUNTY HUNTER/PISTOLER
korvass
Sun Aug 14, 2005 2:10 am
#6

There will be no turning upon each other in this forum. I forbid it.





Errathe Afi
Professional Scoundreless
Smuggler till death


"I aim to misbehave!"
"Business is always personal..."
"I'm a smuggler; sarcasm is the only content I got left!"
yimaz
Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:28 am
#7






tralita_tusnami wrote:

Yimaz, my post was jsut an appology, for being as passionate as I am. Im not saying others arnt passionate. It was an appology for MY shortcomings, if you are mad at me for my appology there is nothing I can do, I actualy didnt think anyone would respond to it.






well your appology was peppered with little diggs at people so lets not get all snow white on this but with that said.... I dont have any issue with you as I said before I respect you standing your ground and a year ago I was just like you. I wont rehash what erked me about your threads again all is good tralita



**Offers tralita some pie**





Yimayz Samoot
Master Smuggler & Master Pilot
Captain of the Auto de fé

Kelko
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:36 am
#8

I wonder how all the Smugglers are going to feel after the end of the month? I wonder what some of the attitudes will still be the same?






SWG+PUB 19+CU+NGE = Crap
ScoundrellessVeela
Sun Aug 14, 2005 9:43 am
#9



Kelko wrote:

I wonder how all the Smugglers are going to feel after the end of the month? I wonder what some of the attitudes will still be the same?






Indeed.

*taps fingertips together a-la Mr. Burns*

*waits for the fallout*



N
Possessed by the spirit of the Queen of the Banned
Once Starsiders foremost merchant of skulls and brains
Jho i'scatter mireth
N
SmugglerPie
Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:56 pm
#10






ScoundrellessVeela wrote:





Kelko wrote:

I wonder how all the Smugglers are going to feel after the end of the month? I wonder what some of the attitudes will still be the same?






Indeed.

*taps fingertips together a-la Mr. Burns*

*waits for the fallout*




*hums an REM tune*


It's the end of the world as we know it.....



The excrement is going to impact upon the rotating blades, for sure.




"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
LaughingWolf
Sun Aug 14, 2005 6:00 pm
#11



ScoundrellessVeela wrote:


Kelko wrote:

I wonder how all the Smugglers are going to feel after the end of the month? I wonder what some of the attitudes will still be the same?






Indeed.

*taps fingertips together a-la Mr. Burns*

*waits for the fallout*




I will still be me. Might occasionally rant but I won't suddenly change personality.



LaffyWolf'ya - Master Smuggler / Master Pistoleer / Rebel Colonel

Fresh out of witty signatures, sorry.
Jaim_Darkstryder
Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:40 pm
#12



LaughingWolf wrote:


ScoundrellessVeela wrote:


Kelko wrote:

I wonder how all the Smugglers are going to feel after the end of the month? I wonder what some of the attitudes will still be the same?






Indeed.

*taps fingertips together a-la Mr. Burns*

*waits for the fallout*




I will still be me. Might occasionally rant but I won't suddenly change personality.





Oh no, we will corrupt you until you are a Rabid Wolf...and not a laughing one....


Muwaaahahahahahahaha


err...

eh hem.




# I support people who don’t pirate the ribbon symbol and plaster all over irrelavent "causes" YARR, matey!
SmugglerPie
Mon Aug 15, 2005 3:59 am
#13






korvass wrote:
So anyone have any actual info on this 'thing that's supposed to happen next week that will be likened unto the apocalypse and have all smugglers cancelling'?

Seriously, inquiring minds want to know.



Why yes... yes, we do.



"C O L O N E L A N G U S" M A C G R E G O R
DEAD SMUGGLER - KILLED BY LACK OF CONTENT AND COMMUNICATION
I am Jack's ignored profession.
My account payment has been moved to a long term implementation.
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