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Thread: So i was pvp'ing today...

Oss_Wilum
Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:00 am
#1

a group of us were pursuing soem rebels, one starts to go down when i see something i haven't seeing a while. the feign death icon appears and he's suddenly an invalid target. was this changed back to work in pvp at the CU and i just missed it or is it broken or bugged?



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Jaguarrr
Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:07 am
#2

Now what we have here... someone stepping into a minefield...


Yes, yes indeed. FD works in PvP and there are counters. Don't ask me which ones, but a Jedi has definetly one somewhere in the trees.





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Aendracon
Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:11 am
#3

Working as intended






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Oss_Wilum
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:23 am
#4






Jaguarrr wrote:

Now what we have here... someone stepping into a minefield...


Yes, yes indeed. FD works in PvP and there are counters. Don't ask me which ones, but a Jedi has definetly one somewhere in the trees.






so what are the limitations? no FD while KD? whats the action cost for FD, perhaps i could sap it down to where they can't afford to feign? stun, blind, dizzy? any of that? it'ssort ofimportant to meas people on my server have been using this to take down our bases with impugnity.



-Excellion Khahi-
Dark Jedi

(gnn[[[[[[[[[[nnnnWX9ggggggggggggggggggggg)


"Remember remember the 15th of November
And the NGE treason and plot.
I see no reason why the NGE treason
Should ever be forgot."


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SmugglinZane
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:27 am
#5






Oss_Wilum wrote:





Jaguarrr wrote:

Now what we have here... someone stepping into a minefield...


Yes, yes indeed. FD works in PvP and there are counters. Don't ask me which ones, but a Jedi has definetly one somewhere in the trees.






so what are the limitations? no FD while KD? whats the action cost for FD, perhaps i could sap it down to where they can't afford to feign? stun, blind, dizzy? any of that? it'ssort ofimportant to meas people on my server have been using this to take down our bases with impugnity.




That's a bug with bases, not FD.



"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
Oss_Wilum
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:30 am
#6






SmugglinZane wrote:






Oss_Wilum wrote:





Jaguarrr wrote:

Now what we have here... someone stepping into a minefield...


Yes, yes indeed. FD works in PvP and there are counters. Don't ask me which ones, but a Jedi has definetly one somewhere in the trees.






so what are the limitations? no FD while KD? whats the action cost for FD, perhaps i could sap it down to where they can't afford to feign? stun, blind, dizzy? any of that? it'ssort ofimportant to meas people on my server have been using this to take down our bases with impugnity.




That's a bug with bases, not FD.





well, i can't fix the bug, but if i could stop them from feigning it would solve the problem from my end...



-Excellion Khahi-
Dark Jedi

(gnn[[[[[[[[[[nnnnWX9ggggggggggggggggggggg)


"Remember remember the 15th of November
And the NGE treason and plot.
I see no reason why the NGE treason
Should ever be forgot."


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SmugglinZane
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:32 am
#7






Oss_Wilum wrote:





SmugglinZane wrote:






Oss_Wilum wrote:





Jaguarrr wrote:

Now what we have here... someone stepping into a minefield...


Yes, yes indeed. FD works in PvP and there are counters. Don't ask me which ones, but a Jedi has definetly one somewhere in the trees.






so what are the limitations? no FD while KD? whats the action cost for FD, perhaps i could sap it down to where they can't afford to feign? stun, blind, dizzy? any of that? it'ssort ofimportant to meas people on my server have been using this to take down our bases with impugnity.




That's a bug with bases, not FD.





well, i can't fix the bug, but if i could stop them from feigning it would solve the problem from my end...






You were already told there are counters to FD that Jedi know about, and you still expect us to tell you?


If I go to the Jedi boards and ask how to counter one of your skills, would you tell me?




"Jedi claims of being "broken" are like saying "But my TV isn't widescreen! It's broken! My TV can't show high-def pictures in 1080i, it can only do 720i! It's broken!" Meanwhile, crafters are saying "We'd really like to have a TV that's larger than 12" and gets more than 4 channels and doesn't constantly lose vertical control", and entertainers are saying "Can we get some color instead of this B&W piece of junk?" And smugglers? We're listening to radio programs of "The Shadow" and "The Abbot and Costello Comedy Hour" and hearing FDR's Fireside Chats. We don't even HAVE a damn TV, much less a broken one or a "broken" one by Jedi standards. I'd LOVE to be as "broken" as they are." - The Legendary Solo4114
Oss_Wilum
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:36 am
#8

yes, what would you like to counter.


i'm all about the free exchange of information.





-Excellion Khahi-
Dark Jedi

(gnn[[[[[[[[[[nnnnWX9ggggggggggggggggggggg)


"Remember remember the 15th of November
And the NGE treason and plot.
I see no reason why the NGE treason
Should ever be forgot."


Vendor: 6457, 2684 Tatooine

Taln2
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:36 am
#9






Jaguarrr wrote:

Now what we have here... someone stepping into a minefield...


Yes, yes indeed. FD works in PvP and there are counters. Don't ask me which ones, but a Jedi has definetly one somewhere in the trees.







Force choke (among other moves) > FD. Working as intended. I believe it functions (speculatively speaking here)to prevent BH or other Jedi from being cheap, though nobody has officially gave a reason. [Edit: That said, it could actually be an exploit, but nobody knows.]

Message Edited by Taln2 on 08-16-2005 02:38 PM



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Oss_Wilum
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:38 am
#10

hm, forcechoke, thats interesting, i wouldn't have thought of that. i'm not going ot change my template to get that counter but thanks for letting me know.



-Excellion Khahi-
Dark Jedi

(gnn[[[[[[[[[[nnnnWX9ggggggggggggggggggggg)


"Remember remember the 15th of November
And the NGE treason and plot.
I see no reason why the NGE treason
Should ever be forgot."


Vendor: 6457, 2684 Tatooine

Alpha_Bits
Tue Aug 16, 2005 11:49 am
#11

impugnity?


/scratch head


/shrug


/drink beer




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Golrok
Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:33 pm
#12

/SIT is the counter to /FD- its been done to me by a few Jedi and it brings me out of /FD every time if they just simply /SIT.

AidenStark
Wed Aug 17, 2005 2:49 am
#13

Or if you target the smuggler and type /tip 1000000 , that works too. It doesn't matter whether it's cash or bank tip either will work just fine.
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