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Thread: Shipwrights are stoopider than Artisans

Calvintus
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:49 am
#1

I'm a 4-4-3-4 Shipwright harvesting all my own materials to desperately make Master. I am proud of my wares. I am proud of my trade. Yet I go the the galactic bazaar (Farstar) and see Dune Lizards and Tie Fighters being sold for 6k. The odd Kimogila and such also. You don't see too many Swoop bikes up for 6k, if ever at all. It torks me to see this. How do you survive? The price of ships has dropped sooo dramatically it is hard to keep my head up. I have always sold my ships at 3CPU and will continue to do so. I hope you shipwrights who do this, soon drop the trade, or even better, loose your shirt. Let the flames and one stars begin.

Message Edited by Calvintus on 03-09-2005 05:50 PM



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UmmonPrime
Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:51 am
#2

Ya, plenty of threads talking about this. I think a lot of those that you see on the bazaar are just people grinding SW. No way you can make a living selling stuff that cheap.



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IIscandar
Wed Mar 09, 2005 10:07 am
#3

Keep the faith Calvintus! Have good quality stuff, and good customer service and you will do fine. Don't forget that when a pilot moves up a tier, the old chassis might go onto the bazaar just to recover some credits.


Kalano
Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:52 am
#4






Calvintus wrote:
I'm a 4-4-3-4 Shipwright harvesting all my own materials to desperately make Master. I am proud of my wares. I am proud of my trade. Yet I go the the galactic bazaar (Farstar) and see Dune Lizards and Tie Fighters being sold for 6k. The odd Kimogila and such also. You don't see too many Swoop bikes up for 6k, if ever at all. It torks me to see this. How do you survive? The price of ships has dropped sooo dramatically it is hard to keep my head up. I have always sold my ships at 3CPU and will continue to do so. I hope you shipwrights who do this, soon drop the trade, or even better, loose your shirt. Let the flames and one stars begin.

Message Edited by Calvintus on 03-09-2005 05:50 PM




What you see there is low tier ships that pilots, NOT SW, sell to make some cash back. How many pilots keep old little fighters when they got bigger higher mass fighters to use. The odd kimogila was probably from someone who thought they wanted it, flew it, hada crappy time, and is trying to get it off there hands.


I have yet seen a SW ever put his blueprints on the bazzar. It was chassies and they were bought from the chassie dealer after buying a blueprint. I haven't even heared of a SW buying chassies of the chassie dealer other than for a ship they want to fly themselves.


I think you got some of your facts a little messed up. Its an understandable mistake but, no, it isnt' SW that are doing it.





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TomoRainer
Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:59 am
#5

No, there are tons of tier 1 ships on the Starsider bazaar, and I'd be quite surprised if there weren't on every other server as well. The reason they're there while swoops aren't is swoops are a Master Artisan product while Dunelizards and Y-Wings are a grind product; the upside to this is these ships pretty much have the worst possible mass, so you can still sell some to customers who care about quality.

But really, there isn't much money in chassis for a number of impossible-to-fight reasons, so I haven't been bothered by this practice in a while.

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Subcriminal
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:07 pm
#6



Read an enjoy for a basic explaination of why chassis can be one of the worst business ventures you can make. Your milage may vary, but most who try to sell chassis only get shafted. There is so much more to being a shipwright than chassis anyway.
Calvintus
Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:22 pm
#7






Kalano wrote:





Calvintus wrote:
I'm a 4-4-3-4 Shipwright harvesting all my own materials to desperately make Master. I am proud of my wares. I am proud of my trade. Yet I go the the galactic bazaar (Farstar) and see Dune Lizards and Tie Fighters being sold for 6k. The odd Kimogila and such also. You don't see too many Swoop bikes up for 6k, if ever at all. It torks me to see this. How do you survive? The price of ships has dropped sooo dramatically it is hard to keep my head up. I have always sold my ships at 3CPU and will continue to do so. I hope you shipwrights who do this, soon drop the trade, or even better, loose your shirt. Let the flames and one stars begin.

Message Edited by Calvintus on 03-09-2005 05:50 PM




What you see there is low tier ships that pilots, NOT SW, sell to make some cash back. How many pilots keep old little fighters when they got bigger higher mass fighters to use. The odd kimogila was probably from someone who thought they wanted it, flew it, hada crappy time, and is trying to get it off there hands.


I have yet seen a SW ever put his blueprints on the bazzar. It was chassies and they were bought from the chassie dealer after buying a blueprint. I haven't even heared of a SW buying chassies of the chassie dealer other than for a ship they want to fly themselves.


I think you got some of your facts a little messed up. Its an understandable mistake but, no, it isnt' SW that are doing it.








As a matter of fact it is shipwrights that are doing it, and they are putting up blueprints....(en masse). Ok. You grind them to get xp. Put them up on the bazaar, for 6k....10 at a time. So now the pilot has a 6k Dunelizard....which IMHO is a prettygood darn ship. Now when it comes time to get a yt-1300, he wants to pay 25k max for it, and complains when it costs more. It is hurting our business and economy. Albeit true that pilots do put up their chassis to recover credits. I buy all mine back to my good customers for half price, when they come back to me for a better ship. And yes Subcriminal. I read your post abouta week ago. A brilliant post that is, but I would still like to sell chassis.



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Subcriminal
Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:16 pm
#8






Calvintus wrote:

As a matter of fact it is shipwrights that are doing it, and they are putting up blueprints....(en masse). Ok. You grind them to get xp. Put them up on the bazaar, for 6k....10 at a time. So now the pilot has a 6k Dunelizard....which IMHO is a prettygood darn ship. Now when it comes time to get a yt-1300, he wants to pay 25k max for it, and complains when it costs more. It is hurting our business and economy. Albeit true that pilots do put up their chassis to recover credits. I buy all mine back to my good customers for half price, when they come back to me for a better ship. And yes Subcriminal. I read your post abouta week ago. A brilliant post that is, but I would still like to sell chassis.





We'd all love to sell chassis. It's up to the dev's to fix it, unfortunately their track record (if you use Architect, DE and Tailor as an example) doesn't provide reason to give them the benefit of the doubt. Until they do, stick with ship parts and consumables and your business will do MUCH better. I know ya wanna sell chassis- believe me I feel for you. Stay away from focusing on them. Don't make chassis and hope that the Dev's will change their tune and actually do something about this, otherwise you'll be broke long before then.
Kalano
Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:54 pm
#9






Calvintus wrote:





Kalano wrote:





Calvintus wrote:
I'm a 4-4-3-4 Shipwright harvesting all my own materials to desperately make Master. I am proud of my wares. I am proud of my trade. Yet I go the the galactic bazaar (Farstar) and see Dune Lizards and Tie Fighters being sold for 6k. The odd Kimogila and such also. You don't see too many Swoop bikes up for 6k, if ever at all. It torks me to see this. How do you survive? The price of ships has dropped sooo dramatically it is hard to keep my head up. I have always sold my ships at 3CPU and will continue to do so. I hope you shipwrights who do this, soon drop the trade, or even better, loose your shirt. Let the flames and one stars begin.

Message Edited by Calvintus on 03-09-2005 05:50 PM




What you see there is low tier ships that pilots, NOT SW, sell to make some cash back. How many pilots keep old little fighters when they got bigger higher mass fighters to use. The odd kimogila was probably from someone who thought they wanted it, flew it, hada crappy time, and is trying to get it off there hands.


I have yet seen a SW ever put his blueprints on the bazzar. It was chassies and they were bought from the chassie dealer after buying a blueprint. I haven't even heared of a SW buying chassies of the chassie dealer other than for a ship they want to fly themselves.


I think you got some of your facts a little messed up. Its an understandable mistake but, no, it isnt' SW that are doing it.








As a matter of fact it is shipwrights that are doing it, and they are putting up blueprints....(en masse). Ok. You grind them to get xp. Put them up on the bazaar, for 6k....10 at a time. So now the pilot has a 6k Dunelizard....which IMHO is a prettygood darn ship. Now when it comes time to get a yt-1300, he wants to pay 25k max for it, and complains when it costs more. It is hurting our business and economy. Albeit true that pilots do put up their chassis to recover credits. I buy all mine back to my good customers for half price, when they come back to me for a better ship. And yes Subcriminal. I read your post abouta week ago. A brilliant post that is, but I would still like to sell chassis.





My appologies for missunderstanding you. I thought you were talking about chassies on the bazaar but if its blueprints, yeah, it is worthless grind ones. I just use practice on mine since i do not care to stock pile nor do i feel that they would sell real well on TC. Not enough customers there. Infact, there is very few shipwrightes and very little resquest for them too. oh well, each server has its own problems and apparenlty yours got a lot of grinders who don't value there work or time. Probably ones that will make some stuff for themselves and a few friends, find out its not a high profite nore easy to work pro and drop it like a rock.



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