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Adumar121

Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:15 am

Hi im fairly new to the shipwright proffession, and crafting in general, i understand the basics but wanted to know if the quality of your tool and the quality of a crafting station effects the item. I'd assume yes but i wanted to know by how much. Also a droid with a ship crafting station in it is like having a station with what #? or do they use a different system on droids? any help would be great.

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BlkHwkDwn

Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:23 am

#2

The higher the effectiveness of the crafting tool or crafting station the lower the chance of a critical failure while crafting. As a SW you don't have to worry about crit fails on anything but paint texture and repair kits.

Also living in a player city that is a research center will increase you amazing success chance on experimentation.

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Velneth

Thu Dec 02, 2004 7:36 am

#3

As for the droid part... the droid won't influence any numbers... your change of failure would be tied to the quality of your tool, your assembly points and pure luck...

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Arg0nus

Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:21 am

#4

BlkHwkDwn wrote:

As a SW you don't have to worry about crit fails on anything but paint texture and repair kits.

To clarify this statement:

Shipwrights do not lose resources/components when you get a crit fail. Just keep hitting next until you get to the next screen. I don't know why this is, exactly. Inever bothered to find out, but I'm sure this pisses off the other crafting professions)

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Barb-Wire

Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:17 am

#5

they just increase your chances for amazing success and great success are very common. witha 45.0 station and a 15.0 tool i almost always get great success and almost never get critical fails or good or poor success.

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Cafa

Thu Dec 02, 2004 9:41 am

#6

BlkHwkDwn wrote:

The higher the effectiveness of the crafting tool or crafting station the lower the chance of a critical failure while crafting. As a SW you don't have to worry about crit fails on anything but paint texture and repair kits.

Also living in a player city that is a research center will increase you amazing success chance on experimentation.

Not exactly true. Critical failures on experimentation essentially make a majority of items paperweights. Same thing is true in architecture. While you may not be able to crit on assembly, something with MINIMAL stats in an item is the same effect.

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Funkbacca

Thu Dec 02, 2004 10:35 am

#7

Arg0nus wrote:

BlkHwkDwn wrote:
As a SW you don't have to worry about crit fails on anything but paint texture and repair kits.

To clarify this statement:

Shipwrights do not lose resources/components when you get a crit fail. Just keep hitting next until you get to the next screen. I don't know why this is, exactly. I never bothered to find out, but I'm sure this pisses off the other crafting professions)

Man, don't talk about this or it will get "fixed"!!!!!

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Niacia

Thu Dec 02, 2004 2:41 pm

#8

Funkbacca wrote:

Arg0nus wrote:

BlkHwkDwn wrote:
As a SW you don't have to worry about crit fails on anything but paint texture and repair kits.

To clarify this statement:

Shipwrights do not lose resources/components when you get a crit fail. Just keep hitting next until you get to the next screen. I don't know why this is, exactly. I never bothered to find out, but I'm sure this pisses off the other crafting professions)

Man, don't talk about this or it will get "fixed"!!!!!

Nope, this is by design. Architects enjoy the same benefits. This was introduced due to the high resource requirements.

Imagine loosing 150k resources on a master ship due to a crit fail...

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sbob

Fri Dec 03, 2004 2:42 am

#9

Actualy would not be too shocked to find out that the code is set up in crafting so that anything that takes over a certine amount of resources has that benifit. Just that most crafter do not use thousands of resources per combine like Sw and Archs.

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Funkbacca

Fri Dec 03, 2004 10:56 am

#10

Well, where ever the cut off is, it's above an AV-21, which uses a fair amount of resources ;D

The first time I did get a crit fail on a ship chassis, I did have a cardiac arrest... I didn't know that architect have had this little safeguard. I am very thankful for it.

Message Edited by Funkbacca on 12-03-2004 09:58 AM

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Brilyn

Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:38 pm

#11

< Does the Effectivness of a Tool, or Station Effect Crafting? >

No.

Not at all. In the slightest.

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Little-Green-Guy

Fri Dec 03, 2004 12:47 pm

#12

Brilyn wrote:

< Does the Effectivness of a Tool, or Station Effect Crafting? >

No.

Not at all. In the slightest.

no effect what so ever. so next time you find that guy charging 1 million for his crafting station..make sure to do this; /laugh

... i use a -222299222222.3334433% SW Crafting Station and it makes no difference whatesoever in the end product.

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Kniol

Sat Dec 04, 2004 12:31 pm

#13

Little-Green-Guy wrote:

Brilyn wrote:

< Does the Effectivness of a Tool, or Station Effect Crafting? >

No.

Not at all. In the slightest.

no effect what so ever. so next time you find that guy charging 1 million for his crafting station..make sure to do this; /laugh

... i use a -222299222222.3334433% SW Crafting Station and it makes no difference whatesoever in the end product.

/agreed

This has been bantered about in all the crafting forums since Launch day, and there are plausible, but sometimes not believable, arguments on both sides.

I believe Drashk, on the Droid Engineer's forum, did a comprehensive study on this and came to this conclusion, that the quality of the crafting tool and the crafting station makes no difference.

I've never insured a crafting tool, and they are all now a dark red in my backpack, but I still get the same high percentage of great and amazing successes and very low percentage of critical failures as I did when the tools were brand new.

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