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Thread: WHere's the Dunelizard Blueprint?!

Velneth
Fri Sep 19, 2003 9:47 am
#1

You need to be at a Private Crafting station.





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Feyjarl
Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:46 am
#2

I've just got to Spaceframe Engineering 1. Standing outside Mos Eisley starport, right in front of the starship crafting terminal. I go into the starship crafting tool, and there are no new blueprints for chassis!!! Just the Novice ones.


I've obviously missed a meeting here so could someone enlighten me as to what I'm doing wrong?!?!!?
Velneth
Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:47 am
#3

You need to be at a Private Crafting station.





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Feyjarl
Tue Oct 04, 2005 9:50 am
#4

OK, so where do I find one of those? Is there one in Mos Eisley?
ZeroEffect
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:04 am
#5

Private crafting stations are player crafted items and can be found in Player houses and cities. Or, you can purchase a droid with a crafting station built in, however, the effectivness rating of these is 0 (same as a publis station) whereas a private station can go up to +45 I beleive it is.



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Feyjarl
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:39 am
#6

Any guilds recruiting on Sunrunner that have Private Starship Crafting Stations?
Andaran
Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:47 am
#7

buy one from an architect




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Red-Dwarf
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:03 am
#8




ZeroEffect wrote:
a droid with a crafting station built in, however, the effectivness rating of these is 0 (same as a publis station)


That is not correct. A droid counts as a "NULL" rating not a 0. Testing is fairly inconclusive but some testing indicates a droid is approx equivilant to a +25 station. However with a +15.00 tool this may not be true (may be higher)




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ZeroEffect
Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:15 am
#9



Red-Dwarf wrote:

ZeroEffect wrote:
a droid with a crafting station built in, however, the effectivness rating of these is 0 (same as a publis station)
That is not correct. A droid counts as a "NULL" rating not a 0. Testing is fairly inconclusive but some testing indicates a droid is approx equivilant to a +25 station. However with a +15.00 tool this may not be true (may be higher)




Hrm, I never heard it explained that way...but, forgive me if I'm misunderstanding, wouldn't a Null rating mean that it has no rating? i.e. 0? But yet you claim some people feel it's equal to a +25 station? How does that work? ah well, I've never used one personally so my information is based off of what I've read here in these forums, so if it's right or wrong I'm just repeating what I've read! hehe



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Feyjarl
Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:41 pm
#10

What's a reasonable price for a Private ship crafting station? And does it take up a building lot?
Velneth
Tue Oct 04, 2005 8:45 pm
#11

No, a Null rating isn't taken into account in the math, it's treated as not existing. It's like something that needs PE when most of it is metal. The PE value doesn't exist , so it's treated as null, not affecting the outcome, relying instead on the one material that does have a PE value for the numbers. Considering a Null value 0 would give a much differnt effect.





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Red-Dwarf
Wed Oct 05, 2005 1:26 am
#12




Velneth wrote:
No, a Null rating isn't taken into account in the math, it's treated as not existing. It's like something that needs PE when most of it is metal. The PE value doesn't exist , so it's treated as null, not affecting the outcome, relying instead on the one material that does have a PE value for the numbers. Considering a Null value 0 would give a much differnt effect.




That's the idea.


The commonest example of making use on a "null" value is in making harvesters. You will find most architects use Lubricating Oil in place of any chemical needed for construction as they do not have a UT, a SR or a HR stat. As such they are essentially ignored and the system only looks at the metal and ore used in the construction. Using a polymer that does have the stats will typically drag down the average and so cause a worse construction.


As to why it is equivilant to a +25 station that is empirical evidence (see the DE forum, test was done there) comparing a variety of stations and seeing which ones gave better crafting results.


Personally I prefer the use of my droid, but then I often craft at a starport with a client so we can check it fits in rather than run back to the player city I am based in to craft.



As SW's we have had trouble with "nulls" as the system gets confused if all the numbers it is looking for are "null" and will only then treat it as a 0 (asteroid resouce components before publish 24).


While the exact forumla is unknown there are two key numbers in crafting, the tool and the station. Given we can now have 100% tools the station can only drag down the average if the formula is simple multiple.





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idolatry
Wed Oct 05, 2005 2:40 pm
#13






Feyjarl wrote:
What's a reasonable price for a Private ship crafting station? And does it take up a building lot?






To answer the real question in this thread


Depends on the galaxy. You require a house to put the private crafting station in, or (as people have already pointed out) you can buy a droid with a SW station built in. Droids are usually more expensive than private crafting stations though.


I cheated when I first found this out. I cracked open the planet map, found the closest shipwright vendor, and used the crafting station in the back of his house Let me craft enough chassis to sell to buy my own. Thanks namless Valcyn shipwright!



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