Shipwright Archive
Thread: Re-Deeded ship sales
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Wovram
Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:37 am
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Starting to sell ships that have been restored to deed form. As you dont need to pay the chassis dealer to generate these would you charge more for them? Would you add the cost of the chassis conversion to your basic price? Deduct a small amount for degredation in chassis?
Personally I am accepting them at 50% of my vendor cost of unused deeds and selling at same price as an unused deed. What do you do????
Joules Vernier Farstar Master Shipwright and captain of the Nautilus
Slochini
Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:46 am
#2
This has been debated a few times. Problem is you don't know what kind of decay youre dealing with. You may be buying a total POS that someone died in 20 times before selling it you. Youre running a risk pissing off customers with crappy space frames. I tried it and the idea really flopped...I'm glad now that it did.
RemoMoxey
Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:49 am
#3
Slochini wrote:
This has been debated a few times. Problem is you don't know what kind of decay youre dealing with. You may be buying a total POS that someone died in 20 times before selling it you. Youre running a risk pissing off customers with crappy space frames. I tried it and the idea really flopped...I'm glad now that it did.
Deeds show the hitpoints (condition)and mass just like the blueprints do. I've sold many deeds (Iadded what the chassis broker charged me to the price).
Rhysen
Thu Nov 11, 2004 8:53 am
#4
Slochini wrote:
This has been debated a few times. Problem is you don't know what kind of decay youre dealing with. You may be buying a total POS that someone died in 20 times before selling it you. Youre running a risk pissing off customers with crappy space frames. I tried it and the idea really flopped...I'm glad now that it did.
I discount my old, deeded ships below the price of the chassis. Not much below (like 5k or so). It's a used car and I don't attempt to imply otherwise.
It sort of ignores the fact that the chassis of my old ships have never taken damage nor decayed. 
Stikjok
Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:59 am
#5
Is there a market, especially for lower end craft?
On Eclipse it is common to findnew (and sometimes well built)z-95/basic TIE/syck fighters on the bazaar for 1 to 6 k, and I've seen them sit there for the whole auction time allowed then drop as unsuccessful.
Are we already seeing aglut of new (and now possibly used) ships which will more than meet demand. I'm sure there will be a small surge in demand once overseas playerswho are still waiting for JTL to ship to their country finally get it, but the low end ships already crafted will meet that demand, especially if resale becomes a big market.
Just trowing some petro on the fire.
zazo
Thu Nov 11, 2004 10:09 am
#6
just out of curiosity why do you feel the need to add what the chasis broker charges to the cost of the ship?
if you buy it back at say 50% of the cost and resell it by marking it up an additional 50% of your cost then you're making a profit and reselling a damaged used ship. People will buy it knowing its used and knowing they will save money on the chasis broker but at the same time knowing they will get limited use out of it.
no need to overcharge because you think you have alimited market
Rogue1970
Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:57 am
#7
I take trade ins on almost anything, as long as it was made by me. I'm failry familiar with my customers and my stats, as the only way I can tell until they fix the 'Created by:' bug that removes our names from are crafted items. 
Anyway, sometimes I use them as giveaways for poor customers or I just use the parts/chasis myself. As a shiprwright I could care less about decay on my own stuff, as I can always replace it in minutes anyway and it saves me some precious time so I can get that rare chance to actually fly. 
I also have a 'Recycled Parts' vendor that does quite well. The payoff has been increased customer loyalty as they know I accept tradeins at 25-50% of retail, based on the decay. Plus it gives the less fortunate a cheaper way to get a part in a pinch.
Kinshi
Thu Nov 11, 2004 12:13 pm
#8
Actually, the more I think about it the more taking back used ships is a bad idea.
Mainly because nobody will want them. It is already a PITA to sell NEW lower tier ships let alone sell one thats been shot up and repaired 100 times. The bulk of the herd will want the newest, best ship you can get them, not some lower tier peice of swiss cheese.
Unless these ships can be scavenged for resources (basically melted down) its a major money losing proposition to take them back (unless you offer tradein at only 1/10th of the original price. Also I would NOT do this for someone outside my guild.
Mainly because nobody will want them. It is already a PITA to sell NEW lower tier ships let alone sell one thats been shot up and repaired 100 times. The bulk of the herd will want the newest, best ship you can get them, not some lower tier peice of swiss cheese.
Unless these ships can be scavenged for resources (basically melted down) its a major money losing proposition to take them back (unless you offer tradein at only 1/10th of the original price. Also I would NOT do this for someone outside my guild.
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