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Thread: Some experimentation on Engines

Alyxian
Sun May 15, 2005 6:10 pm
#1


First, my purpose: To create replacement engines for my great RE'd Engines

Second, my expectation: Not that high

Third, stats on engines to replace:


Cert 6 RE:

Energy: 1454.4

Mass: 9267.5

Y/P/R: 67.7/68.4/68.9

Speed: 95.9 (Pre-Nerf, yes)



Cert8 RE:

Energy: 1619

Mass: 23497

Y/P/R: 76/76/76

Speed: 82


I experimented with Mk III, threw them out, just can't get the stats high enough


My first results were thourougly disheartening, I can make a psuedo replacement for my Cert 6 RE engines, but nothing compared to my Cert 8's.


I then tried leaving out Roll, when flying, Roll is important, but I use it in conjunction with other moves so it may not need to be as fast (My theory anyway, need to prove it)


Mark IV:

All are YPR experimented except the last which is only YP

1st

Mass: 13438.7

Reactor: 2284.7

Mark III Overdriver

Y/P/R: 63.9/63.9/64.1

Speed: 84.5



2nd

Mass: 13438.7

Reactor: 2284.7

Mark IV Overdriver

Y/P/R: 63.9/63.7/63.9

Speed: 86.5



3rd

Mass: 13438.7

Reactor: 2284.7

Mark IV Overdriver

Y/P/R: 66.4/66.6/58.7

Speed: 86.5




Mark V:

1st

Mass: 27922.1

Reactor: 2438.4

Mark V Overdriver and Mass with some YPR Experiment

Y/P/R: 62.5/62.5/62.7

Speed: 98.6



2nd

Mass: 33569.8

Reactor: 2425.2

Mark V Overdriver and YP only Experiment

Y/P/R: 70.6/71.4/60.2

Speed: 98.9



Conclusion: Screw it, I am going to stick to RE Engines



Alyxian Gorgaan
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webboy
Mon May 16, 2005 9:27 am
#2

I crafted a Mark IV at speed of 87 and YPR orf 64.


I crafted a Mark V at speed of 117.9 and YPR of 63





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Alyxian
Mon May 16, 2005 10:44 am
#3

Please tell me how? And what are the Mass on them?


Even with your numbers, the YPR is too low, by a long shot. And I doubt you can get the Mass of a good RE.





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webboy
Mon May 16, 2005 2:53 pm
#4

Oh I'm not saying they'll replace good RE engines (mainly due to YPR)...but still it's not bad. I got the speed by having some really good resources. As for mass. Well I didn't experiment on mass...so you can prolly figure out what the mass on them would be then I'd post the numbers but I haven't been in game yet today lol (gasps, faint).


I was just posting to let you know what other servers are crafting Oh, and for those engines the only thing I experimented on was speed with extras going into YPR. I also crafted the relevant overdrivers for those engines





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Alyxian
Mon May 16, 2005 3:12 pm
#5
Ahh, yeah. Well the speed is great, the YPR, possibly acceptable in the RotW ships, but the Mass....not for an Imp



Alyxian Gorgaan
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Ramona_Garcia
Mon May 16, 2005 11:58 pm
#6




Alyxian wrote:
Ahh, yeah. Well the speed is great, the YPR, possibly acceptable in the RotW ships, but the Mass....not for an Imp




I'd think the mass would be ok for a heavy TIE.



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Ramona_Garcia
Tue May 17, 2005 1:17 am
#7
Hey! TIE Fighters are not ugly! Not as good looking as TIE Interceptors, but good looking still.



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Alyxian
Tue May 17, 2005 10:17 am
#8
*chuckle* you are right, I just keep coming back to the fact that the tier 1 ships are better than the advanced, and it is hard to choke back.



Alyxian Gorgaan
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Alyxian
Tue May 17, 2005 12:34 pm
#9

*sigh* If I acknowlege the presence of that ship, yeah

It is just not a tier 1 ship...*shrug* and ugly too



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Rhazohn
Wed May 18, 2005 3:06 pm
#10

Just spent some time on engines to what what my 'Improved' line will now be. Overdrivers were experimented for speed to max. My Ferm S Ore is only 868 OQ but my steel is 649Cd 991OQ. The sub comes out at 14.9 Speed 486 Energy without playing with food for a better Energy rate.


-WI- ' Starscream ' Mk V Starfighter Engine 2410 Drain 33211 Mass 63.9/62.1/63.9 PRY 119.1 Speed


-WI- ' Starfire ' Mk V Starfighter Engine 2410 Drain 26850 Mass 63.9/62.1/63.9 PYR 100.0 Speed


With a better ore I'm gonna probably hit 120 Speed howeverI don't think the mass is gonna come down further as most of my materials are in the 990's for experimentation ( love to see those all green bars )



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hotrodder
Wed May 18, 2005 9:52 pm
#11

tbh, higher speed crafted engines have always sold better than RE'd engines at my shop. i guess my customers prefer the higher speed to manueverability. imho, ypr around 62-65 works just fine for me, makes your ship less jittery, easier to control, and easier to target those pesky awings while still turning fast enuf to keep up with em with my big ol' bear claws. 70+ ypr was always too sensitive for me.



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webboy
Thu May 19, 2005 6:07 am
#12




hotrodder wrote:


tbh, higher speed crafted engines have always sold better than RE'd engines at my shop. i guess my customers prefer the higher speed to manueverability. imho, ypr around 62-65 works just fine for me, makes your ship less jittery, easier to control, and easier to target those pesky awings while still turning fast enuf to keep up with em with my big ol' bear claws. 70+ ypr was always too sensitive for me.




That's what I've found too. The extra speed comes in handy when you need to get away quickly when in a pinch - and the turn rate (62-66) is plenty enough for both pvp and pve. That's the way I've found it anyway.



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