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Thread: Thelonius's mighty thread of whining!
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TheloniusCIA
Tue Nov 23, 2004 2:25 pm
#1
BEHOLD: THELONIUS'S MIGHTY THREAD OF WHINING STARTS HERE!
Listen to my ideas and thoughts, then tell me if you agree. I don't need you to tell me I'm wrong, or add new idea. just mention the thought/idea's # and why (if u want)
1) You have a nova (decimator/YT-1300). it's nice, roomy, pretty, and of course, alot of fun to play with. Then, you find yourself flying into a group of tier 4 black suns. you're thinking to yourself "oh cool these guys don't stand a chance against my x-wing!" and before you know it, you're spamming "ESHILEDS"in groupchat hoping you'll save yourself. Now, to the practical part. I think, we should make the mark V crafted shields/guns (yeah it takes a while to kill blacksuns with a 3700 blaster, even with weapon overload) ALOT better but also sooo heavy (mass-wise) so they won't fit anywhere but the nova. then u won't see people using 4000/4000 shields on an x-wing, and we'll all be happier having fun with our multiplayer ships.
2) "Dear Devs: I bought an x-wing chassis yesterday. JTL is sooo fun,I mastered pilot in 5 minutes, solod a star destroyer and out-damaged han solo. but wait, my x-wing is ruined! the chassis is down to 15/15, and only after 10 deaths! oh my..."
ok devs, we appriceate your attempt to fix the broken aconomy by nerfing solo grouping, that's ok. but dudes, we can't afford 4 x wings a month man! that's not right. so either lower the schem's resources usage so they will cost less, or damn make the chassis decay slower. I'm poor!!!
3) The A-wing is rediciouless to compare with the x-wing. Enough said.
4)Space quests. where the hell are they? I'm getting bored!
5) Please, please please! let us load missles from inside the multy ships. they run out fast when trying to killgunships and stuff.
7) When I kill a krayt I get a tissue. when I kill an elder I get a crystal. but what happens when you kill a tier 5 gunship? 27k xp? ;-)
6) <thinking of something to write>
Well, that's it for now, I couldn't think of anything else. please tell me what you think.
Sincerily, Thelonius<CIA> (ahazi)
Mejowepra
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:21 pm
#2
1) I think there should be Mark VI and perhaps Mark VII equipment. Make them use more specific resources, more of them. Make their mass be 100-200k each. But make them hell of a lot better. I'm not just talking about better armor and shields, but cap ship style weapons with twice the range (well same range as the cap ships we face in the game) and higher damage. how about Also making spacebomb2 launchers actually have singificant mass? Or make spacebomb 2 somewhat worse (up to 16-17k dmg perhaps) and att a spacebomb 3 with 100k mass, current sb2 dmg and say 5-10 missiles per missile pack.
Give us equipment that makes good use of the 5 million mass we have. Make it worth it to have one of these ships with 4-8 people compared to 4-8 individual fighters (right now 4 b-wings will be so higher powered than a YT/Dec/Nova with 4 people in it).
10k per hit weapons with 0.5 refire rate and better shield/armor ratio with twice the range would be nice for starters.
However, good shields and armor would come a long way towards making these viable. It's simply nowhere near as good as it needs to be today.
Give us equipment that makes good use of the 5 million mass we have. Make it worth it to have one of these ships with 4-8 people compared to 4-8 individual fighters (right now 4 b-wings will be so higher powered than a YT/Dec/Nova with 4 people in it).
10k per hit weapons with 0.5 refire rate and better shield/armor ratio with twice the range would be nice for starters.
However, good shields and armor would come a long way towards making these viable. It's simply nowhere near as good as it needs to be today.
Kinshi
Tue Nov 23, 2004 3:25 pm
#3
1. Well on the surface it seems a good idea to make items so high mass that they would only fit on a Nova BUT if someone is cramming that into an X-Wing they are very likely giving up a lot of other stuff to squeeze that bad boy in there. I do agree there could stand to be some new, crafted components that are for the BIG ships only (I mean no, you arent going to cram a Star Destroyer's deflector system into a Z95). Dont really think this is a high priority change, but not a bad one.
2. On this I say tough luck, folks really need to learn to fly better and equip their ships better. If you get blown up 10 times, YOU did something wrong, not the devs. Simple answer, stop dying.
3. Meh, the A-Wing isnt really a superiority vessel, not sure this is a valid comparison or not.
4. Make your own events, get your PA involved, use your imagination. You dont need to wait on SOE to find things to do.
5. At first clance I would say yes BUT, there already is a Replenish while under way function, and think about it, to reload missiles, it means climbing out of your ship while its in space, unpacking missiles and shoving them into the launcher, all in the vacuum of space with enemies all over. I dont really think this needs to change or should.
6. Well these were out of order, so since I have nothing to write Ill skip this one
7. You get starship loot appropriate to your piloting skill. This stuff can be reverse engineered to make it better, or simply sold to the Chassi vendor. What more do you need?
2. On this I say tough luck, folks really need to learn to fly better and equip their ships better. If you get blown up 10 times, YOU did something wrong, not the devs. Simple answer, stop dying.
3. Meh, the A-Wing isnt really a superiority vessel, not sure this is a valid comparison or not.
4. Make your own events, get your PA involved, use your imagination. You dont need to wait on SOE to find things to do.
5. At first clance I would say yes BUT, there already is a Replenish while under way function, and think about it, to reload missiles, it means climbing out of your ship while its in space, unpacking missiles and shoving them into the launcher, all in the vacuum of space with enemies all over. I dont really think this needs to change or should.
6. Well these were out of order, so since I have nothing to write Ill skip this one
7. You get starship loot appropriate to your piloting skill. This stuff can be reverse engineered to make it better, or simply sold to the Chassi vendor. What more do you need?
Okidievi
Wed Nov 24, 2004 1:06 pm
#4
2. On this I say tough luck, folks really need to learn to fly better and equip their ships better. If you get blown up 10 times, YOU did something wrong, not the devs. Simple answer, stop dying.
Sure, and lets do the same for the ground game too. Get rid of insurance and put a 10% decay on EVERYTHING in your inventory when you die. Hey, its your fault that you died, not the devs. So stop dying.
Narrganocca
Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:05 am
#5
#1 and #5 is being screamed for on the pilot forum too. I agree with these, MP ships need to be viable in combat by having huge components that a fighter cannot pack.
the rest of your points are unworthy of positive comment from me, so I won't flame you
AnzelVincir
Thu Nov 25, 2004 1:48 am
#6
I'm confused. Can I whine about my own stuff or do I have to only about your stuff? Does it have to SW related? I have a lot to whine about so please let me know.
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