Shipwright Archive

Thread: Please learn the market, your customer, and your product

Zodiac-B
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:31 pm
#1


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Message Edited by Zodiac-B on 09-21-2005 02:47 PM





Zodiac Enterprises - Corellia (near Coronet) 192 -5487

Suarat: Master Shipwright 12/17/17 - Akron's Havok Squadron Ace Pilot
CAIDOZ: Elder Jedi - CorSec Squadron Ace Pilot
Aurilius Maximus: Commando - Completed 6th mastery, hesitant to continue due to Kessel Spawn

OrizCore
Mon Sep 19, 2005 6:05 pm
#2

so buy all of his and sell them for 250k


15k doesnt even pay for the roids that go into them, let alone trying to make money.





Pecosbill - Master Shipwright
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Zodiac-B
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:26 pm
#3

I thought about that, but I'm afraid the market is already tainted...





Zodiac Enterprises - Corellia (near Coronet) 192 -5487

Suarat: Master Shipwright 12/17/17 - Akron's Havok Squadron Ace Pilot
CAIDOZ: Elder Jedi - CorSec Squadron Ace Pilot
Aurilius Maximus: Commando - Completed 6th mastery, hesitant to continue due to Kessel Spawn

Xiao-an
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:27 pm
#4

I used to sell mine on Eclipse for 20k each. They sold well, and I mined all my own resources.



a Imperial Colonel Porcelain of Eclipse b

Azarken
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:06 am
#5


the fact you think you can get away with charging 500-800 cpu for such trivial items that take a mere 250 resources shows how clueless you are about your market customer and product. see the thread below on the eclipse forums.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Eclipse&message.id=636669



Message Edited by Azarken on 09-20-2005 11:19 AM



Azarken Talamasca

KaylBreinhar
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:21 am
#6

Case in point - I've seen winglets on the damned bazaar.

They're not worth more than about 20k, especially considering so very few people actually FLY the ships they were meant for.



Death doesn't fly a JSF anymore...he flies a Gallente Thorax in EVE Online
BruSwillis
Tue Sep 20, 2005 3:26 am
#7






Azarken wrote:


the fact you think you can get away with charging 500-800 cpu for such trivial items that take a mere 250 resources shows how clueless you are about your market customer and product. see the thread below on the eclipse forums.


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=Eclipse&message.id=636669






I love it when the greedy are caught out and there's nothing better than the greedy putting their foot in their own mouths.


Good work Az, keep it up mate. Hopefully this guy will go out of business soon.






_____BruMasterUnderworldSmuggler.
___________Toth'raRebelBothanSpy.

Jagged-F3l
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:51 am
#8

Any crafter worth his salt is always be checking the bazaar, both the public and vendor search options. Back in the day before the galaxy vendor search, we had to go from shop to shop and check our competitors vendors.



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BruSwillis
Tue Sep 20, 2005 4:55 am
#9

Any crafter worth his salt is usually too busy making and restocking to have the time to check other peoples stuff.




_____BruMasterUnderworldSmuggler.
___________Toth'raRebelBothanSpy.

AlaeraIrelphir
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:20 am
#10

/cheer Az!!!!! Keep up the good work!



Alaera Irelphir


Thanks for two years of fun and laughter Eclipse!



IIscandar
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:37 am
#11



KaylBreinhar wrote:
Case in point - I've seen winglets on the damned bazaar.

They're not worth more than about 20k, especially considering so very few people actually FLY the ships they were meant for.





I hate being called "few people"

Actually I made ace last night so YT for me!


I check the average market price everytime I have a crafting session. It only makes sense to be certain you are not way too high or way too low. I know at first I was "too busy" to care what other people were charging or what price the market would handle. I'm a little more responsible now.
Qui-Gonzalez
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:38 am
#12






Zodiac-B wrote:

I'll try to make a long story short here:


I was checking out my competitors on the bazaar awhile backand found that no one wasmaking ship mods (side strakes, winglets, etc.) on my server. I thought to myself, hmm, let's make a couple and see what happens. My philosophy on experimenting a market is to start my pricing high and then adjust from there. So I put my mods up for 250k, one of each ship. About 3-4 days later, they're all gone, even the Kimogila whichnot many fly. This was pretty nice to see that there's a demand for these, so I started making a few here and there, not many since they take up all my precious asteroid materials, but they keep selling. Then, about a week or so into this, somebody decided to put a ton on their vendor for only 15k. What the heck is this? I still had at least one on the bazaar when these were posted, so if this person had half a brain, he/she'd check the market and price accordingly, but nooooo. Now the market on ship mods are going to take forever to get back to where they should be, if never at all. Now, don't get me wrong, 250kmay behigh, but if you knew your customer, you'd know that they just take one duty mission, sell all their loot, and bam, there's 250k. One hour's work and you got some cool mods for your ship.


So, the moral of the story. PLEASE check the bazaar first before placing any new product or a product you haven't put up for awhile. The market could be completely different than what it was or what you'd think it should be. Blind pricing is just not smart. I check the market on all asteroid products often.On myground resource crafted items,I always use the same formula, but asteroid resource products change based on demand and resource availability.






Did you come here looking for approval to price gouge? Asteroid resources do not go for one tenth of the price you are trying to sell those parts for. If they do, your problem lies in your miner, not another crafter selling for a reasonable price. If he wants to sell something ata more than reasonable price, considering the cost of the resources, then maybe that is your first clue that your prices are far too high, no?


I know I will not be buying new items from your shop.





Gonz
~ Eclipse's resident Stick-in-the-Mud!~
The "Edit" feature is of the Dark Side..

IIscandar
Tue Sep 20, 2005 5:47 am
#13

Everyone please remember that a shipwright sells products at the price they feel they are worth. Lets not argue about who prices what. It goes both ways. People get up in arms when someone prices chassis too low, so lets not get in a fight over strake prices.

Besides, that whole asteroid resource market is in for a big change anyway.
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