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Thread: Limited Factory Support == Limited Shipwrights

Tokklyym
Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:50 pm
#1
I don't have a problem with the current factory support.

But then again, I don't list on the Galaxy Wide Vendor Search and I'm not in a high traffic area. I have great sales, and my customers like my goods.

I'm pretty happy with it the way it is.



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idolatry
Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:06 pm
#2

I forget where I saw this, but someone pointed out an interesting idea.


Shipwright was the last crafting profession created. Lots of man-years put into developing and tweaking and looking at how the other crafting professions work. What makes them fun, what doesn't, what drives the economy.


So Shipwright represents the dev team's ideal of a crafting profession. Ideal in a game/economy sense.


If you look at our components and resource usage (barring chassis of course), everything at the same level has the same resource cost associated with it and uses a maximum of 1 upgrade part. We *can* factory build the upgrade parts.


DE/WS/AS all use some crazy subcomponents, and sub-subcomponents, making their finished items represent a huge investment in time and configuration. That's why they have full factory support.


We don't because our items are simpler to create.


I did 10 million credits in sales last week, and I wouldn't have it any other way. The sheer grit it takes to craft those items keeps dabblers out of the profession and keeps prices up. I do not want to see the market flooded with factory-created components, it'd remove a ton of my business.





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Jagged-F3l
Tue Jun 14, 2005 2:13 pm
#3
I'm sorry, but this argument is old and tired. You need to read through the issues post that IIScander has stickied regarding factory support. About the only factory support I would like is the ability to run a limited schematic in the case that I had encountered a crafting session with 3+ amazing successes. 



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FriedSquid
Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:21 pm
#4
Agreed. This argument is quite tired. SW is the most unique of the crafting classes by a long shot, quit whining and use your last /respec to go be an architect or something.






It's all gone. And so am I.


Little-Green-Guy
Tue Jun 14, 2005 3:23 pm
#5

people who argue 'for' additional factory support...are not capable of 'grasping' the bigger picture.



..complain all you want now...while your busy. soon will come the day, and you won't be able to give a Shipwright 'crafted' part away for free. just like after the original launch of JTL.





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Drakkosith
Tue Jun 14, 2005 5:15 pm
#6




FriedSquid wrote:
Agreed. This argument is quite tired. SW is the most unique of the crafting classes by a long shot, quit whining and use your last /respec to go be an architect or something.




LOL, i used myFIRST respec to dump architect to become Shipwright because it is the type of crafting I love to do. I hated factory runs of 5 components to make a factory run of 3 more components to make a factory run of a 1 harvester type, it sucks. Shipwright is the final-best result of every crafters suggestions taken quite well by the devs and put into a great class.



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Jagged-F3l
Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:07 pm
#7




Drakkosith wrote:




FriedSquid wrote:
Agreed. This argument is quite tired. SW is the most unique of the crafting classes by a long shot, quit whining and use your last /respec to go be an architect or something.




LOL, i used myFIRST respec to dump architect to become Shipwright because it is the type of crafting I love to do. I hated factory runs of 5 components to make a factory run of 3 more components to make a factory run of a 1 harvester type, it sucks. Shipwright is the final-best result of every crafters suggestions taken quite well by the devs and put into a great class.




I hate factory runs for the same reason that I hate crafting chassis. Where is the fun in it? Mind numbing activity that I can get a ro-roo to do for me. 



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Jagged-F3l
Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:08 pm
#8




Drakkosith wrote:




FriedSquid wrote:
Agreed. This argument is quite tired. SW is the most unique of the crafting classes by a long shot, quit whining and use your last /respec to go be an architect or something.




LOL, i used myFIRST respec to dump architect to become Shipwright because it is the type of crafting I love to do. I hated factory runs of 5 components to make a factory run of 3 more components to make a factory run of a 1 harvester type, it sucks. Shipwright is the final-best result of every crafters suggestions taken quite well by the devs and put into a great class.




I hate factory runs for the same reason that I hate crafting chassis. Where is the fun in it? Mind numbing activity that I can get a ro-roo to do for me. 



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Br-10n
Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:05 am
#9
Gee, whodathunkit. Seems there are a lot of people who don't want to stand around all day cranking out dozens of items by hand. Where are all the people who wanted the "Customer interaction" and "satisfaction of doing it myself"? Seems they got burned out and quit.

Who could have predicted such a situation? Hmmm, maybe me, six months ago, when I said that limited factory support was a bad idea. I hope all you "old fashioned craftsmen" are happy.

BTW, don't bother looking for my shop, I don't have one. I only craft for myself and my friends.



Sekundar Lapsus

Bria/Corellia

= Teras Kasai Master - Master Shipwright - Almost CorSec Ace Pilot =
Isrem
Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:15 am
#10
Oh yes, full factory support would have been a good idea. I cannot craft as fast as my items sell, but I still try to be fully stocked. Good for my bank IG but bad for my health and friends in RL. On numerous occasions I thought about giving up
My last reaction to this situation was a price raise to 30 cpu for hand crafted components. This did not help with the speed of selling at all, but my bank raised even faster. Maybe I should enhance to 40 cpu? But maybe some new SW who used the respec to test our profession will stick to it, open an active shop and ease my burden a little. I hope for it.



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Drusan
Wed Jun 15, 2005 12:58 am
#11
I'm fine with the factory support the way it is now. I can't make as much stuff sure, but I don't really want to either. I think it helps to keep the market healthy. I sell for 10-12 cpu and if it goes faster than I can make it then "yay me" but I'm not gonna clamor to make more.



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Br-10n
Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:11 pm
#12
Meanwhile, back in the real world, what is the result of no factory support? No shipwrights.



Sekundar Lapsus

Bria/Corellia

= Teras Kasai Master - Master Shipwright - Almost CorSec Ace Pilot =
refleks
Wed Jun 15, 2005 8:18 pm
#13




Br-10n wrote:
Meanwhile, back in the real world, what is the result of no factory support? No shipwrights.




I don't know how bria is, but considering it isthe biggest server there should be enough shipwrights for everybody. Besides, since the CU I have seen more ADs for SW shops on my server forum then ever. I wouldn't mind factory support, but I'm not gonna give up just because I have to handcraft. Maybe a trade-off, make "simpler" components like droid interfaces a factory support item, maybe 10 or so per schem?.




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