Shipwright Archive

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Bugboy321 wrote:

I think we have yet to see the full potential of crafted items until we get a full cycle of high quality resources.

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/cheer

The devs did a good job fixing up JTL and the shipwright business for the first few weeks after it was released, but since then changes have come about as fast as I've come to expect them in the other aspects of the game. I was sad to see this take place, but I'm happy to hear the rather sorry state of crafted capacitors is still being pushed as one of our big issues.

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Eaca wrote:

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Narreem0884 wrote:

I hope that every crafted ship item gets a boost. They're all mediocre at best. It's very, very sad that even the most average of loot is many times better than the best crafted equivalent.

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What are you talking about? Are you even a pilot? Yes, what you say is true in the case of even level engines, even level capacitors, and most even level boosters. Known issue. THAT'S IT. I've gone thru more parts as a pilot than most SW's have. Litterally thousands, I save everything I get until I verify it useless before I sell it. Lets take a look at what I've found:

Armor: After RE I have 2 pieces that I would consider considerably better than crafted. Loot armor is junk compared to crafted with the exception of a very few pieces, which have either good armor/HP or good mass, never both until after RE. For armor loot < RE < crafted < exceptional RE.

Boosters: known issue

Capacitors: known issue

DI's: Currently crafted droid interface upgrades are seemingly broken, so I really don't know much about this. I use a pre nerf/fix DI anyway, as do most, so this is kinda a mute issue

Engines: known issue

Reactor: I'm sure you're moaning about those 20-40k loot reactors that pop up every now and again, but those monsters are quite rare I assure you. At 90+mil prestige I've recieved ONE. And that one was cleaverly disguised as a 0.0 reactor, which didn't reveal itself until RE'd (I chose it for RE for its light mass). But a vast majority of loot reactors are not only 1.5-2 times heavier than thier crafted counterparts, they produce about 25-50% less power. For reactors loot < RE < crafted < exceptional RE

Shields: with the exception of the reward shields, loot shields, are again, vastly inferior to crafted shields. The only real benefit from REing shields other than reward shields is if you manage to get some exceptional front and back shields, or need to save a lot on reactor power at the cost of some shield strength. Other than the reward shields crafted is almost always better than loot. For shields loot < RE < crafted < exceptional RE

Weapons: You bemoan the higher than craftable vs shield and armor of loot weapons, but have you ever actually done DPS calculations on them? A vast majority of those raw loot guns with .65+ vs shield and armor also come with a .420+ speed penalty, as well as medioce min/max damage stats, putting thier average damage per second value LOWER than crafted, as well as monster energy per shot costs (which will matter once weapon overload 3 is fixed). Add to that loot weapons are generally as heavy as crafted at the LIGHTEST, and loot guns are veritable crap compared to craftable. Now, with some proper saving and REing yes, you can make some VERY sick weapons, however as raw loot, they stink. For weapons loot < crafted < RE

So out of 8 total catagories you only really have problems with 3, and 3 of the other catagories, you only have problems with RE if well above average loot is used in the process. So no, AVERAGE loot isn't your problem. Your only real problem is boosters, engines, and capacitors.

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for the most part i agree with you

for armor the only thing ive seen come close to good crafted armor is the lvl8 reward armor.

boosters you say are a known issue, but crafted boosters are AWESOME. i have a mkII crafted with 35 top speed, this blows away all loot except lvl10 which is over 30k mass.

crafted engines are the fastest unless you count prenerf, but have crap ypr. if they fix the y and p on crafted it would be great (who cares about roll).

guns though are WAY better re'd than crafted. there really is no comparison here.



on starsider ive probobly been to every ship vendor on the world map and ive only found one shipwright that made decent stuff (and no longer stocks). so i know what can be done but no one else seems to be able to do it. either the vast majority of you need to figure out how to craft or good resources need be a bit easier to find.

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Zaax wrote:

i can craft some very nice weapons - espechailly using quick-shot, limiter ,armor or shield upgrades. i have found very few weapons that are btr. other than a lvl 10 i looted and am trying to find another 9 ro RE it to managable mass, loot weapons are not great. Maybe the lower lvl T2 and T3 are btr off using looted, but from T3 - get crafted weapons...

anyway, shipwrite are not dead, useless, etc...

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S-1-l2-H-C wrote:



for the most part i agree with you

for armor the only thing ive seen come close to good crafted armor is the lvl8 reward armor.

boosters you say are a known issue, but crafted boosters are AWESOME. i have a mkII crafted with 35 top speed, this blows away all loot except lvl10 which is over 30k mass.

crafted engines are the fastest unless you count prenerf, but have crap ypr. if they fix the y and p on crafted it would be great (who cares about roll).

guns though are WAY better re'd than crafted. there really is no comparison here.



on starsider ive probobly been to every ship vendor on the world map and ive only found one shipwright that made decent stuff (and no longer stocks). so i know what can be done but no one else seems to be able to do it. either the vast majority of you need to figure out how to craft or good resources need be a bit easier to find.

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S-1-l2-H-C wrote:
ive probobly been to every ship vendor on the world map and ive only found one shipwright that made decent stuff (and no longer stocks). so i know what can be done but no one else seems to be able to do it.

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Whole reason why ive started grinding SW as summerized by ostat

S-1-l2-H-C wrote:
ive probobly been to every ship vendor on the world map and ive only found one shipwright that made decent stuff (and no longer stocks). so i know what can be done but no one else seems to be able to do it.


He's probably waiting for a decent crop of good resources to hit again. You can blow through a good stockpile pretty quickly as a SW as compared to, say, a weaponsmith.

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Starstrider6 wrote:

I haven't been a shipwright long, but when it comes to crafted vs. RE'd or just general loot on Chimaera, crafted can't hold a candle to loot. I've RE'd Level 1 capacitors that have 800 or morestored energy with a recharge rate of 36 - 40. Slap on Capacitor Overcharge 2 and you can fire two weapons forever.

The inability to craft something that can even begin to compete with looted components is disheartening to say the least.

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Eaca wrote:

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Starstrider6 wrote:

I haven't been a shipwright long, but when it comes to crafted vs. RE'd or just general loot on Chimaera, crafted can't hold a candle to loot. I've RE'd Level 1 capacitors that have 800 or morestored energy with a recharge rate of 36 - 40. Slap on Capacitor Overcharge 2 and you can fire two weapons forever.

The inability to craft something that can even begin to compete with looted components is disheartening to say the least.

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I don't buy that, never seen an L1 near those stats.

Now if you had said L2, I'd have believed it.

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I believe I still have one or two on my vendor, and for certain one in storage. I'll screenshot it and either confirm your thoughts that it's a L2, or prove I'm not making things up.

Hey Harotak, why don't you throw me an email with what you're looking for in terms of parts? I'm pretty sure that, if it's possible to craft what you're looking for, I should be able to get it done. Naithan shops my place pretty regularly, at least.

My name's Tomo.

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Eaca wrote:

*snip*

I don't buy that, never seen an L1 near those stats.

Now if you had said L2, I'd have believed it.

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Good catch on that. I just checked and I have three capacitors as I described, but you are correct - they are all L2. They are however much better than L4 and L5 capacitors that I've RE'd and seen crafted.

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Starstrider6 wrote:

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Eaca wrote:

*snip*

I don't buy that, never seen an L1 near those stats.

Now if you had said L2, I'd have believed it.

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Good catch on that. I just checked and I have three capacitors as I described, but you are correct - they are all L2. They are however much better than L4 and L5 capacitors that I've RE'd and seen crafted.

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