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Thread: shipwrights bottoming out????
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Rowgue
Fri Jan 14, 2005 9:46 pm
#14
Exactly what I was pointing out. On kettemoor prices were never that high, so don't look at my post as a reflection of prices dropping, they have been right around there as long as I have been playing. You get the odd guy sometimes that's selling avian or herbivore for 100-500 cpu, but nobody buys from him and he quickly goes to play somewhere else.
The main problem with the economic structure of this game is that too many people get into one profession or another because they think they will make tons of money doing it. Like the person who masters scout so he can gather tons of avian and herbivore, but doesn't really like being a scout. Now when he gets all that meat is he going to offer it at a fair price? No he's going to mark it up once for whatever he feels his time was worth to gather it, and then once more because he feels he should be compensated for playing a profession that he doesn't like.
Chiwawa
Sat Jan 15, 2005 4:29 am
#15
syncmast wrote:so your saying it's fine if I put up a vendor next to your and charge less then 1cpu on my ships. And my stuff can be as good as or better then yours and you wouldn't say anything ?
Chiwawa wrote:
syncmast wrote:the biggest thing I've notice is chassis are not selling. Most people have their ship and are now buying parts. The bad thing I notice was I was looking for a certain type of resource yesterday and ran acroos a ship vendor. Well this guy had all his ships at 50k including the b-wing. His mulitiplayer master ships were sit at 300k. These are the type of prople that ruin it for the rest of us.
It is a free market, people can sell at what they like. I cannot say that I have noticed the (in general) low quality, low cost MSW having any impact whatsoever on my sales.
Indeed, its a free market, you know as well as I do the stuff I make will be better
Take Mere steel for example on Farstar, spawned ages ago, all gone. I will (and have) paid up to 6/7 cpu for it. It is far superior than any other steel I have seen for just about anything we can make.
Granted the 1cpu guy might have loads of it stashed, but at that proce, it wont last long. Eventually balance returns.
I repeat, sell at whatever price you like, if you take pride in what you make and assist your customers well, you will do just as well if not better than the lowballer.
black666label
Sat Jan 15, 2005 8:38 am
#16
syncmast wrote:
the biggest thing I've notice is chassis are not selling. Most people have their ship and are now buying parts. The bad thing I notice was I was looking for a certain type of resource yesterday and ran acroos a ship vendor. Well this guy had all his ships at 50k including the b-wing. His mulitiplayer master ships were sit at 300k. These are the type of prople that ruin it for the rest of us.
Ok a guy selling his stuff for cheaper than you is ruining it for the rest of us? Isn't the point of competition to outsell your opponent? And it's not like he's under or over charging for his product. When i play this game the average payout for missions is 15k I mean c'mon man people are waay overpricing some of their stuff and someone actually has some good prices and is selling more than you he's ruining it for you
Mariki
Sat Jan 15, 2005 10:19 am
#17
The guy was probably selling out...
SW was good for a while but now at the dirty cheap prices and the hand crafting, well frankly its too much work for no reward.
People selling at the super low prices proves this out.
Mosdl
Sat Jan 15, 2005 6:11 pm
#18
I just opened a new vendor in a tent outside of theed on Ahazi with some left over chassis', and managed to sell quite a few in the past week. Tier 1 and 2 ships seem to be doing well.
oracomm2
Mon Jan 17, 2005 3:02 am
#19
syncmast wrote:
the biggest thing I've notice is chassis are not selling. Most people have their ship and are now buying parts. The bad thing I notice was I was looking for a certain type of resource yesterday and ran acroos a ship vendor. Well this guy had all his ships at 50k including the b-wing. His mulitiplayer master ships were sit at 300k. These are the type of prople that ruin it for the rest of us.
how does my vendor ruin it for anyone? you said it your self.....the biggest thing I've notice is chassis are not selling.
even at those low prices...not one...repeat not one has even sold.
IllandroKIlek
Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:20 pm
#20
syncmast wrote:
so your saying it's fine if I put up a vendor next to your and charge less then 1cpu on my ships. And my stuff can be as good as or better then yours and you wouldn't say anything ?
Yes, that's how a free market works.
Besides if someone sets up right next to you, makes them as good or better than you, and sells them for less than 1 cpu, BUY HIM OUT and sell the items on your vendor. Even better still contact him and ask if he wants to be a wholesaler. Turn disadvantage to your advantage by working together.
Ducimus
Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:49 pm
#21
>>Now when he gets all that meat is he going to offer it at a fair price? No he's going to mark it up once for whatever he feels his time was worth to gather it, and then once more because he feels he should be compensated for playing a profession that he doesn't like.
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In the case of the organic harvester this is totally untrue.
Doc's set the prices, not the harvester. I used to be a 4/0/4/0 rifleman ranger, and harvseted professionally for a couple months. It was all i did. Only ONCE did i ever have to set my asking price. 99% of the time the doc's would buy compedativley. Avian meat isnt exactly a plentiful resource, and the docs would buy compedatively to get more of it then the next guy.
Us harvesters had no problem with that at all. You shout over cnet 150 CPU and another guy shouts out 200 CPU, well, money talks...
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In the case of the organic harvester this is totally untrue.
Doc's set the prices, not the harvester. I used to be a 4/0/4/0 rifleman ranger, and harvseted professionally for a couple months. It was all i did. Only ONCE did i ever have to set my asking price. 99% of the time the doc's would buy compedativley. Avian meat isnt exactly a plentiful resource, and the docs would buy compedatively to get more of it then the next guy.
Us harvesters had no problem with that at all. You shout over cnet 150 CPU and another guy shouts out 200 CPU, well, money talks...
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