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Thread: Delta here ya go

Pluto9Moon
Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:47 am
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DeltaXi65 wrote:

Trainee,


I think you posted this in the wrong place. The CH boards are here:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board?board.id=creature_handler\


We in the Scout forums like to post positive, helpful threads and leaving the valueless complaints to other, less respectful forums.




DeltaXi65,


I have always praised you for being one of the better correspondents. Your input always seemed to be timely and well thought out. I am supposing that you are just having an off day. If scout were as broken as CH I am certain this board would be a lot less respectful as well.


Scouts cannot loot in combat but let us wonder how scouts would react if you had longer timers that would delay looting for 60 seconds after combat. Calling a camp took 15 seconds to call from inventory. Camps would not spawn if you or a member in your group took a combat TEF. Camps autostored. We went back to only one person in a group could harvest the corpse. Making scout more useless than it already is. Camps did not stack and you could only have so many camps in your inventory based on Level. Your maskscent went away after every combat and could not be reapplied for 60 seconds after combat.


I think Scout is just as useless as CH. There are only a few reasons to be one. But we CH try to be respectful when visiting your forum and I think you should be respectful of us. The least you can do at this point is apologize. We are severely broken. You are not. Easy to stay positive when things are already positive eh?




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DeltaXi65
Tue Apr 06, 2004 9:59 am
#2






Pluto9Moon wrote:





DeltaXi65 wrote:

Trainee,


I think you posted this in the wrong place. The CH boards are here:


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board?board.id=creature_handler\


We in the Scout forums like to post positive, helpful threads and leaving the valueless complaints to other, less respectful forums.




DeltaXi65,


I have always praised you for being one of the better correspondents. Your input always seemed to be timely and well thought out. I am supposing that you are just having an off day. If scout were as broken as CH I am certain this board would be a lot less respectful as well.


Scouts cannot loot in combat but let us wonder how scouts would react if you had longer timers that would delay looting for 60 seconds after combat. Calling a camp took 15 seconds to call from inventory. Camps would not spawn if you or a member in your group took a combat TEF. Camps autostored. We went back to only one person in a group could harvest the corpse. Making scout more useless than it already is. Camps did not stack and you could only have so many camps in your inventory based on Level. Your maskscent went away after every combat and could not be reapplied for 60 seconds after combat.


I think Scout is just as useless as CH. There are only a few reasons to be one. But we CH try to be respectful when visiting your forum and I think you should be respectful of us. The least you can do at this point is apologize. We are severely broken. You are not. Easy to stay positive when things are already positive eh?






Please read the post that I just put up Pluto. It'll answer your questions about whether or not I was having "a bad day".


There have been times when Scout has been pretty darn broken. Back in July, when mask scent was nerfed and didn't work, the survival grind was unbearable, and fishing was useless, and ninja looting made it nearly impossible to group. We could have gone negative and flipped out, but we didn't. We kept our cool, stayed respectful, and now all of those things have gotten fixed. That's the right way to do things, and it's proven successful everytime that we've done it.


When harvesting got screwy, I took the time and wrote polite letters to TH, Q and GreenMarine and because we did it the right way - without freaking out and going nuts - we got the changes fixed and reversed in less than 5 days.


Scout is not useless at all - we're one of the fundamental professions in the game. Without us, there's no armor, no food, no medicine, and no clothing. We're the foundation of two of the most popular professions in the game - BH and CH - and we're one of the very few professions that is almost perfectly balanced. To say that we're useless is not only extremely shortsighted, it's also just plain wrong.


I know it's tough for you guys, but you can't let the long lead time in development get you down. Concentrate on what's great about being a CH and not what's bad about it. If you do that, you'll be much happier and the wait until you get fixed will be much more palatable.


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Seiryuu
Tue Apr 06, 2004 1:09 pm
#3

...we got the changes fixed and reversed in less than 5 days.
...you can't let the long lead time in development get you down.


That is sort of contradictory. "Yep. It took us darn near a WEEK to get our fixin'. Buck up kiddo, you only have a YEAR 'til they get back to ya".

More than anything it is the way things have been handled.

We have been nerfed repeatedly for the good of the game (some were needed; we agree). We have not seen a lot of fixes to our most pressing issues. The fixes we do get break an even more vital system. We are then assured the combat balance would fix everything. Only that is at least six months away now (after four have passed by) and the devs have been mum. The last dev comments we got were insulting (being called poke-master) and told that a game-breaking bug was just our pets being cowardly. We were brushed off for a month.

While most professions either get a few improvements or at least stay the same, we have gotten nothing but hate from players or nerfs and breakage from devs. It is seriously depressing to players that want to enjoy the game. Other than having to suffer through it yourself, I cannot explain fully how demoralizing it has been to us.

So yes, we can be a bit snippy. I try to keep it in check, and I have a good deal of self-control, but you have been on the receiving end yourself...



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