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Thread: Can Master Scout /exam a Creature to Find Its CL?

DeltaXi65
Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:27 pm
#1

JJ,


Yup.


It's called "difficulty level" though.


And you get it at Master Scout. Come join the club!


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jjsmit1
Fri Oct 31, 2003 1:33 am
#2

I'm a Creature Handler who enjoys taming lower level creatures. I usually give them away (and sometimes sell them) to other players. I've never been able to determine the Creature Level (CL) unless I actually tame the little guy. Even then, I have no way of knowing what the Max CL will be until he grows to an adult.


I've heard that Master Scouts can /examine a creature to find out it's CL. Is that true? If so, I may very well go Master Scout. That ability, plus the bonus to Mask Scent make it pretty tempting.


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jjsmit1
Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:44 am
#3

Thx for the reply Delta.


So it's called "Difficulty Level", eh? Is that the same thing as Creature Level? I assume so, but...can someone give me a definitive yes or no.


The whole reason I want this ability is so I can tell early on if I will be able to give a creature I've tamed to a non-CH.


This will become more important once the new CH changes go through and the devs start tweaking creatures' CLs. There might actually be some decent CL10 creatures at that point, but I'd like to *know* that the critter is CL10 (or less) before I start trying to give him away. There's nothing worse than seeing a sad, little Bothan face when you tell him he can't have a new pet because it's apparently too powerful.


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DeltaXi65
Fri Oct 31, 2003 10:18 am
#4

JJ,


Yes - they're the same thing.


And I'm very sad, as both of my pets are currently above level ten.


My poor Kaadu Sanders (she tastes like chicken) and my poor Rock Beetle Ringo (Get it?) will have to find a new daddy soon.


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jjsmit1
Sat Nov 01, 2003 1:17 am
#5

Kaadu Sanders and Rock Beetle Ringo! rofl!


You crack me up Delta.


Thanks again for the info. Man, I love this Scout forum.

Ariekb
Tue Nov 04, 2003 9:24 am
#6

yes as a master scout you can examine a creature and determin it's Cl(chalange level ) also known as DL (difficulty lvl). a verey hany skill to have, but as you climb in the Ranger trees you will be able to tell alot more about an animal



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WTS
Tue Nov 04, 2003 2:51 pm
#7

CH have been trying to get this skill added to their profession so that those without master scout can see the creature level as well.

master scouts should be crying theft.



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jjsmit1
Tue Nov 04, 2003 3:25 pm
#8

I totally agree WTS. If you look at the CH trees, they're all about establishing a relationship with a creature. The Scout tree, on the other hand, is about Creature Knowledge. It only makes sense that this ability fall to the scouts. The way I see it, knowing a creature's CL is one of the few reasons to get Master Scout anyway.
NotApplicable
Tue Nov 04, 2003 4:01 pm
#9

I actually disagree with WTS and jjsmit1. CHs should know the potential levels of the creatures they are taming or have tamed, although I don't believe they should be able /examine a wild creature to determine its CL. During the taming process I think the CH would have an inherent understanding of what the creatures potential is.


CH: Isn't this baby rancor cute? Look how long those fingers are and he's got HUGE feet. He's going to be a big guy some day. I think I'll call him Snookums.


(couple days pass)


CH: Sure I'll watch your kids, they should be ok with Snookums.


(a few minutes later)


CH: NO SNOOKUMS!!! PUT THOSE KIDS DOWN!!! NOT FOOD!!! NOT FOOD!!!


CH: Note to self. Pet may be too dangerous for anyone else.


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JBMat
Tue Nov 04, 2003 7:57 pm
#10

Hmm, I am confused. Scouts and Rangers know the difficulty levels of creatures through long hard hours of hunting.


CHs on the other hand stand around and make nice to to the beasties...don't be afraid... How does this allow them to know the CL of a creature? All they should know is if they can tame it or not. I seem to recall that after a few tries, before examine came along, I could guess if the creature was above my level or not.


A fair way would be this - Rangers and Scouts can see the CL. If CHs want this skill, what they have to do is tame or attempt to tame a lot of creatures. After an unsucessful attempt on a creature that is above their taming level, the CH would get a system message saying that "This creature is above your taming level" or something in that area. Novice scouts can't see doodly about the creatures, it takes progression up the ranks, as it should be with CHs. Let the message be your guide.


I would also suggest, that, in the alternative, CHs should have Scout/Ranger friends. I am only too willing to let my CH friends know what I can see about their pets. They help me, I help them, we are all happy boys and girls. Gee, wonder if the Devs did that on purpose??


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jjsmit1
Wed Nov 05, 2003 8:36 am
#11

I actually laughed out loud (for real) when I read NotApplicable's post. Good one.


There is one scenario in which I could see CHs being granted the ability to see CL. In the datapad. Once a CH tames a creature, it's put in their datapad. We see both the current numbers and the max numbers for certain stats like Damage: 10 - 15 (120 - 135)or HAM: 120 (1200). But we only get to see the creature's current CL. It kind of makes sense to see both the current and max CL too, like CL: 2 (22).


If the Devs decided to implement something like this, I wouldn't complain. But ultimately, I really do think that knowledge about creatures falls within the scout domain. As you become a better scout, you gradually get more info from /examine. I think some people forget that CH's *are* Scouts- at no point in the CH tree do we get more info about creatures. In the interests of game balance, I think this is one reason to get Master Scout.

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