Scout Archive

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SioBabble wrote:

I miss my glow wires, but p-darts are nice, too, and you don't need anything but the bare novice box to use them.

The catch, of course, is that sheer brute force works just as effectively if you're fully buffed. so why bother?

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:yodance you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny.

Resist the pull of the UB3R side of the force!

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LowbaTherf wrote:

As a rifle user, I have shied away from traps since they aggro the creature, and (being unarmored and unbuffed) I have very little in the way of protection once a creature sniffs me out. Is there a tactic or strategy I am overlooking that can help me use traps while using conceal shot, or maybe help me when a creature aggros me?

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Answered your own question there.. once it agros you. And at some point you'll move up from conceal shot. Once you fill in the x/x/x/4 branch and get some speed conceal shot is mostly a party trick. At this point traps become more usefull.

If something is about to come pound on you pop a adhesive mesh or a p-dart on it so you can run. This lets you get away with having to use your burst run... most of the time. Which of the two to use depends on the creature , the enviroment, and how dead it is. You'll have to feel this out on your own. P-darts are the one to use most of the time. If its not going to DB pop a Noise maker on it and try you luck.

When you get the point that heads shots are more usefull you learn where to stack the trap in your combat queue so that just as the critter is about to agro you've got a trap on its way.

That said even as a Master Rifleman/Master Ranger I'm still a gimp with traps. Why? Cuase they whern't very usefull to me as a Scout/Novice Rifleman. They where like screaming "hey I'm over here! come kill me!"

P-darts and Noise makers are the ones I use most. Glow wire/juice is good untill you get some accuracy. Once you have Master... defences? what defences? I could be wrong about how much this could help me. But I really seem to do the same damage in the same amount of time either way. Once again I'm still learning with these things.

Sadly I have to say that they are more usefull to me Buffed/Caned. Juvi Krayts are a LOT easier stuned and stuipid.

when i was a ranger/rifleman, i used adhesive mesh in a trap projectile droid.

there are three main advantages to the droid trap module:
- when droid is throwing you don't loose a combat turn.
- adhesive mesh is only 2 charges per pack, but packs combine inside a droid.
- operating a droid takes up less toolbar space than traps. (commands were throwtrap, harvest, and follow.)

my main way of attacking things would be to pull a target out of the crowd with a bleed. then i'll have the droid throw the adhesive as the target charges. when the target gets unstuck, i give it a posture change (supression fire). by the time it stands back up, i can reapply adhesive. rinse and repeat until target is dead. then the droid harvests the hide or whatever from the corpse.

my droid was an r3 with a trap module, 110 med module, and 4 harvest modules (it wasn't the best at harvesting.)

As a Rifleman I hardly ever used traps, except when some critters got too close to me. Then I normally throw a P-Dart to get out of there. As a Pikeman though I love traps, I use Wiremesh, noisemakers and Bonespurrs on every critter before I do anything else, then I go berserk on them. They help quite a bit by lowering mele resistance (wire), blinding the critter(bonespurr), and stunning helps as well at times. Got a qestion though, does anyone use the stink bomb often? (at least I think it's called that)

Glow juice is RANGED JB. Glow-wire is both

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JBMat wrote:

I rarely use them, instead going to glow wire, which drops both melee and ranged defenses. Glow juice is RANGED, stink bombs are State defense lowers (stun, intimidate), glow wire the combination.

Had to relook up stinkbomb as couldn't rember the actual effects, though it's more a melee trap rather than ranged.

Message Edited by Huntseeker on 03-22-2005 11:34 AM

When I initially levelled Ranger, I spent a good amount of time on Dantooine. The pikets are great xp for unarmed and ranger. Not as good as rancor but... Anyhow, buffs weren't big yet so going unbuffed with weak armor was normal. I had two techniques with traps. I would pick a piket and throw adhesive mesh. The others would aggro me. I would do one of two things: I'd just run until they'd deaggro and I'd run past them and kill the one I'd trapped. As they'd file in, I'd kill them one at a time. Second thing I would do would scan the immediate area for voritors. Voritors will aggro pikets when they enter the area. So while the piket is diverted to defending itself from the voritor, I would tap away with my (at the time) gimped unarmed damage. By the time I was done with pikets, I would finish off the voritor for added xp. Now, with buffs a popular alternative, I'm using my alt to grind carbineer and level with ranger. Traps are still very useful IMHO. Reason for it is when you're prone and the creature is slow moving or immobile, my accuracy mods improve. If they rush me and attack me in melee range, I miss far more often. And I also save on armor decay. Not only this, but buffs allow me to actually shoot more than twice without stimming (carbine is SO HEAVY on ham).