Scout Archive

Well, I agree. And so do the Devs.

One of the goals for the GCW revamp is to give every profession a little GCW love. I've suggested that we be able to detonate minefields or that some other "scouting" type skill.

I'll be asking for more opinions on this as time gets closer to the GCW revamp.

B

How about the ability to place sharp bone spirs in the pants of enemy players?

Message Edited by taloncard on 05-16-2004 09:23 PM

Scout does have a place in PvP (well not as big as it should be), Without scout skills, players will be slow climbing hims. I do agree that scouts should be able to make traps throw at Npc and other players in PvP. Plus maskscent or something like that should be used to hide you from the radar of a enemy player at a set range.

I've always wanted the devs to give players a way to hide themselves on the ingame radar. That thing just takes away so many valueable and proven warfare tactics. To compensate I had suggested that the devs give Rangers or Scouts the ability to find hidden pcs. But, of course, it was flooded out in a few minutes by the usual whines on the GCW boards. I'd really like them to still think about this though, it would be a great way to make scouts useful as recon for large pvp raids and also would give another profession (Smuggler or Commando I was thinking) a usefullness by letting them hide players, but like most of my ideas they'll never see this one

I think you're onto something good, Solstise. A stealth ability could not be too powerful, of course. But to many people rely heavily on their radar. I usually keep mine at 120, to know when aggros are coming. The maximum range of any weapon in the game is about 80m. So if a profession like commando or smuggler was off of the radar until within 100m of a person, rather than whatever it is now (150ish?), that would give add bit of a surprise to whoever they're attacking.

Being able to detect that would be valuable, but should be just as hard to achieve as the stealth skill. This early warning ability is a big part of my definition of a scout, and would definitely give them their niche against non-creature PvE as well as PvP.

But keep in mind that not being seen on the radar doesn't mean invisible in person. That's my thought on the idea.

Max range for most weapons is 64 m, with mods, maybe 75. Turrets have a longer range, but if you miss seeing one of those, give it up. Radar set at 120 won't even have half the creatures on it, as some lairs don't spawn until you hit the 64m limit.

Creatures will not aggro on you until you hit the 64m range at the very farthest, usually closer than that. Depends on the range that isset for them to dotheir /maskscent check.

TN is very useful in PvP. I can't count the number of armored clowns...uh...BHs... who got kitedas they are slower in armor than I am in no armor, and the fact they are stupid and stood in one spot while I did shoot and scoot. They stood in one spot with all their specials, armored and buffed, and I dropped a few bleeds on em, made them use precious mind to heal, which regens slowly as they are armored, and dropped em eventually.

Just dispelling some myths here.

JB

Whats next?

Artisan's being able to throw hyper-spanners at people?!?!

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JBMat wrote:

Max range for most weapons is 64 m, with mods, maybe 75. Turrets have a longer range, but if you miss seeing one of those, give it up. Radar set at 120 won't even have half the creatures on it, as some lairs don't spawn until you hit the 64m limit.

Creatures will not aggro on you until you hit the 64m range at the very farthest, usually closer than that. Depends on the range that isset for them to dotheir /maskscent check.

TN is very useful in PvP. I can't count the number of armored clowns...uh...BHs... who got kitedas they are slower in armor than I am in no armor, and the fact they are stupid and stood in one spot while I did shoot and scoot. They stood in one spot with all their specials, armored and buffed, and I dropped a few bleeds on em, made them use precious mind to heal, which regens slowly as they are armored, and dropped em eventually.

Just dispelling some myths here.

JB

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That, my friends, is called tactics,wonderful job JB! I admit I only PvP on occasion soI am hardly an expert at it. But I have found scouting skills to be useful as well. Terrain negoitation is a wonderful skill in hilly or mountanious terrain. However,I've occasionally even a PvE skill like Maskscent can come in handy. You can't always rely on it butsometimes people will get sowrapped upin the fight they willloosetheir situationalawareness. I've gotten out of a tough spotbefore by having maskscent up around some nasty critterswhile my opponents didn't.

I agree, scout is totally useless against pvp. I think scouts need to have some kind of traps that can be used against pcs, like landmines... there traps right? Another good idea would be add some type of infiltration skill or something... after all were scouts right? If you think about it, as of right now there is nothing scout-esque about Scout, its more of a outdoorsman type classor something .