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Thread: Rifle range in SWG

wreckbmx777
Fri Aug 27, 2004 3:47 am
#1

Ok ... just a question... I have'nt read every forum listing in the riflemen joint, but I'm curious about something....


I've been playing SWG for a while, got to the rifleman hybrid, elite, whatever it is class.. and all through marksman rifles and the actual rifleman class.. I kinda curious.


Why is rifle range so short ? It's not much better then carbine.. we should be able to reach out and touch someone from VERY far out.


Am I wrong in this ? We as riflemen, should be able to set our radar hud for 256m ( Or more..) see a red or yellow dot, and be able to cap it. Or at least have a chance.


Have I been playing too much SOCOM or something? Too much GTA 3? Because you can zoom in from pretty far away in those joints. ( I know that it's not 200m or more...)


Don't get me wrong Conceal shot has gotten me lots of xp, that I wouldn't have gotten without it, I would've never been able to solo to the fruits that I have with it (and some mind spices ! ).


What does everyone think?



Robyn Sage
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Eccimuni
Fri Aug 27, 2004 5:56 am
#2

Don't worry Wreck...we're the best PvP profession in game, aside from those nosey Jedi. If they added to our range like that, everyone else would cry more than they do now.



Theolotis
Movil
Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:20 am
#3

Current shooting range for rifles is pretty good because you can shoot and nobody will detect you, if you use conceal shot. I think that if you want to track creatures from the distance you should consider Ranger profession.
CrashNgoBoom
Fri Aug 27, 2004 7:15 am
#4

He's not talking about tracking them far out. He's talking about killing them far out....like a sniper should. I under stand his frustration. When I first started playing this game I was a bit confused too when comparing it to real life. For instance, in RL when I have to qualify with my carbine, I have to shoot at targets from 50m(the closest one) to 300m just to qualify. Rifles are even farther then that. And that is just what would be considered a marksman in this game. A rifleman in this game would be equvilent to a sniper in RL and shoot for much much more distance. But then I began to understand that if they made rifles like they were in RL then everyone would be getting picked off from great distances and nobody would pick any of the other professions in the game. Lets face it, in real life, NONE of the other professions would stand up against a rifleman in combat.



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Chaosium_451
Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:01 pm
#5

I concur. I can understand there are processing difficulties to consider and all that, but having a rifle with a maximum range = optimum range is just silly. Having a rifle that can only shoot as far as a pistol or carbine is silly too. I'll still play the game, but the limitation has always been a little jarring to me.


And ConcealShot only works against non-social MOBs. Nail a MOB with concelshot and his buddies all see you right away.



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Bloodshead
Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:11 pm
#6

Yeah the maximum range on rifles is a joke, 64m is too easily closed, even for a creature, not to mention a TKM with lunge 2 just neeeds to get 44m and lunge 2 you and bam you're gone. You can kite them, but that puts a severe penalty to your accuracy and with all the defense stackers i can only hit 1/2 of the time even while standing still! Accuracy needs to be upped or make the range at least 10m more



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LiakyK
Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:14 pm
#7

This is an old argument, cant be won the devs said 64+ meters for PCs will never happen



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Bloodshead
Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:18 pm
#8



Wheres the rifleman if he cant hit farther then a carbineer, this definately needs to be considered



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LiakyK
Fri Aug 27, 2004 2:20 pm
#9

Well the devs have been asked, the range will not be increased, they say it would overload the server (I would say as much as we pay upgrade the SOBs).

But everyone thinks if we get a 3 second delay we would be fixed lmao.

Message Edited by LiakyK on 08-27-2004 05:20 PM



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