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Thread: Why was the Lithitanium rifle nerfed?

DarthVillanus
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:11 pm
#1

Victor finally won on Ahazi. I took his quest and went to the squill cave and found a Tusken Executioner. After a while I managed to kill the Tusken Executioner and looted the tusken head.


I went back to Victor expecting to get a kinetic dmg rifle for my reward. What did I he give me? A tusken rifle that does energy dmg. It's completely useless to me.


What gives?



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XaverriJade7
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:17 pm
#2

The Devs don't want us to be 'too powerful'. So no kinetic weapons unless you're a melee fighter(seems they don't care about the kinetic pistol though...). This change was made like 2 days after the rifle was available. I killed a Tusken Executioner yesterday expecting a head and got like 2k credits Guess you have to get the mission- and since no one on Eclipse seems to like ol' Vic, I guess I'm out of luck. /sigh





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guessit
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:44 pm
#3

"So no kinetic weapons unless you're a melee fighter(seems they don't care about the kinetic pistol though...)."



Newsflash; the kinetic pistol sucks so bad it isnt even worth mentioning, even with high dmg slice and powerup it is so weak.






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XaverriJade7
Tue Sep 14, 2004 8:50 pm
#4






guessit wrote:

"So no kinetic weapons unless you're a melee fighter(seems they don't care about the kinetic pistol though...)."



Newsflash; the kinetic pistol sucks so bad it isnt even worth mentioning, even with high dmg slice and powerup it is so weak.









It's better than nothing when Energy, Acid, Cold, Heat, and Stun are worthless. Any smart Pistoleer will have one at all times, no matter how bad it is.

Message Edited by XaverriJade7 on 09-15-2004 12:27 AM





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Kyreal
Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:27 pm
#5

when the devs realized that a rifleman that holds a kinetic damage rifle would be able to solo every mob in the game.


so they removed the tusken rifle's kinetic damage and changed it to vanilla energy, making it a worthless rifle, same with the berzerker (heat is nice but no armor piercing make this gun a showpiece only) and the spraystick, (low damage, not worth having)


they did this somewhere around the time mounts/vehicles came into being. not exactly sure when they did the stealth switch but when we found out we needed kinetic to take down protectors,stalkers and weavers, the outcry was loud, the devs responded by lying to us and saying the tusken was always energy. heheh..... in the end it just quieted down and faded away.


if u do a search u will find a few threads on this subject im sure.


guessit
Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:37 pm
#6

yeah, but man the striker pistol is weak. I havent used it for anything yet... lol. Ill be pissed if it actually does have a use; i got a 33 slice on it right before i destroyed it for taking up room in my bags. Something just not that useful about a pistol that has 150 dmg even with a 33% slice.







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Vaelorn
Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:22 pm
#7






guessit wrote:

yeah, but man the striker pistol is weak. I havent used it for anything yet... lol. Ill be pissed if it actually does have a use; i got a 33 slice on it right before i destroyed it for taking up room in my bags. Something just not that useful about a pistol that has 150 dmg even with a 33% slice.











When you come up against a mob with 100% resistance to stun, acid, energy, heat, and blast, you'll wish you still had that worthless pea-shooter, because doing 100 damage with Stopping Shot or Last Ditch is 100% better than doing 0 damage with every other pistol.


I think that making Nym's Slug Thrower actually throw slugs (make it do kinetic damage and remove the medium AP), and making the Tusken Rifle do kinetic damage (also remove the light AP), would allow the other ranged professions to at least contribute *some* damage to mobs that are 100% immune to everything else they have. I seriously doubt that a Rifleman would ever solo something that has armor and good kinetic resistance by using an AP0 rifle that does 100-200 kinetic damage; if they tried to use Conceal Shot they would be guaranteed to land that 1 point health bleed and draw agro long before they ever killed a mob with 100,000+ HAM (300,000-600,000+ effective HAM versus AP0 kinetic).


Keeping kinetic damage out of the ranged professions AND having mobs with 100% resistances to all of a ranged profession's weapons is just plain wrong at this point in the game. When a melee combat profession goes up against something that is 100% immune to all of their weapons, they do not become useless, because melee combat professions can still *tank* the mob. Ranged combat professions *cannot* tank mobs effectively; their purpose is to deal damage at range. When the mob is 100% immune to EVERY weapon a ranged combat profession has, they cannot deal damage at range, and they cannot tank effectively, rendering them useless to the effort.

MelikyeKobine
Thu Sep 16, 2004 10:29 am
#8

What Vaelorn said. And I too remember the Tusken doing kinetic damage way back when.







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