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Thread: Fellow Riflemen please help figuring out the Beam Rifle riddle

Tatharo
Sat Oct 18, 2003 1:18 am
#1

I really would like to know what is the deal with the Beam Rifle. There was a thread about it before but most of the posts were just guesses and assumptions. Here are the facts I personally gathered. I bought the Beam rifle (looks very close to commando Heavy Acid Rifle) the unsliced stats from memory are as follows:


Damage 110-230


Damage type Energy


Speed 4.8


Range - +0 Minimum at 0m; +16 Ideal at 0m; +0 aximum at 64m


Hams: 50/70/74


AP Light


No class currently has a certification for the rifle however it is a rifle for sure and not a heavy weapn or anything else. I killed a few mobs with it and it allows all Rifle special moves as well as awards Rifle Exp. for the kill. I find the rifle super useful at any range due to no range penalties as well as super fast at 4.8 seconds unsliced, the hams are on the hight side but comparable to the t21, and it looks too cool . I find that our class already has low variety of weapons and if this weapon needs to be fixed I would like to attract attention of the devs through our correspondent. I thought maybe there is a sort of a quest that awards a certification for the Beam Rifle but find this idea highly unlikely.


PLEASE help me in attracting attention to this post and getting certified for a sweet weapon. (I do not hawe a sight to post images of the rifle but if someone suggests one i definitely will)


Thanks in advance and sorry if spelling was bad (too tired to check)


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SocialConformer
Sat Oct 18, 2003 2:45 am
#2

The answer I've seen is that it was a beta weapon and the precursor to the acid rifle. There should be no certifications granted, and I'm a bit puzzled as to why the schematic hasn't been removed yet.


It's funny, cause it really would be a decent weapon - almost perfect for replacing the DLT20a - it's faster, does a bit more damage and is AP1. Only problem is the HAM costs are about the same as an E11 rifle (well, the Beam Rifle I have is about 40-45 action/mind costs with health in the 20's),but the E11is AP2, with close to the same base damage.


Basically, I would use it. But it's not going to happen.







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Tatharo
Sat Oct 18, 2003 8:43 am
#3

this is very sad, I was hoping that with enough effort we can attract devs' attention and fix the weapon. But this definitely wont happen if the weapon is a mistake.


Please post your oppinions.

DireBountyHunter
Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:13 am
#4

I'm just trying to find out some more information on this rifle as I've never heard of it before. I was on swgcraft.com and I couldn't even see a schematic for it...I'm assuming you purchased the rifle, it wasn't some weird drop. Do you know what lvl weaponsmith can craft this since it doesn't even apear to be in the skill tree....or does it appear under a different name...



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Sylathnie
Sat Oct 18, 2003 5:50 pm
#5

well i can tell you it takes master firearms crafting to make one. and i still can make them. i use them mostly for looks and for giving to vendors to hold. I wish they would give us some way to cert in it... maybe even at master. i would love to have a weapon that was effective every shot at 0 meters.
Tatharo
Sat Oct 18, 2003 6:55 pm
#6

i totally agree..the rifle is sweet and looks too cool, thats why i started the thread..lets attract more posts to capture more attention to the mysterious rifle
iomega090
Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:38 pm
#7

I've seen beam rifles, and noticed that there is no cert for them.


So i have a question for those who have used them, is there a penalty involved when using one? Like when you try to use a weapon you are not qualified for (brawler using knucklers, someone not a commando using a flamer etc.), or does the weapon work as indicated?




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MasterMollica
Sat Oct 18, 2003 9:56 pm
#8

If you study the schematics it clearly falls within the special heavy weapons category. Not much use, even if it was a rifle class weapon. I'd rather use a laser rifle.



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XaverriJade7
Sat Oct 18, 2003 10:46 pm
#9

I don't care about certifications, I want one. Seriously. If anyone could set that up, feel free to mail me. I will certainly pay you well. Thanks! Good night!





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SocialConformer
Sat Oct 18, 2003 11:00 pm
#10






iomega090 wrote:

I've seen beam rifles, and noticed that there is no cert for them.


So i have a question for those who have used them, is there a penalty involved when using one? Like when you try to use a weapon you are not qualified for (brawler using knucklers, someone not a commando using a flamer etc.), or does the weapon work as indicated?






I do about 7 points of damage with mine. Answer your question?




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DaemonMoerder
Sun Oct 19, 2003 1:06 am
#11

As far as I know, this was a Beta weapon akin to the Launcher Pistol. This pistol was intended for commandos to gain heavy weapons XP while using a weapon that they could actually use (using the flame thrower or acid rifle with just novice commando is a waste of time). Lacuncher pistol uses all pistol specials and uses pistol abilities such as accuracy and speed. The beam rifle was just like this for commandos but in a rifle form. Hope this helps.

Kershakk
Sun Oct 19, 2003 7:27 pm
#12

Actually in the crafting areas the Beam Rifle falls under the general ranged weapon category, not special weapons. Don't know what it's for - I made 2 - one sold pretty quickly and the other has been sitting on my vendor for 5 weeks. At 5k
Lagamiso
Sun Oct 19, 2003 8:06 pm
#13

If my memory of beta serves me right, the Beam Rifle was the precursor to the LLC in the BH rifle tree. And no, BHs didn't have a cert for it back then either (which was a major problem).


I'm not quite sure why they scrapped it (and I'm surprised it's still in-game as a schematic) but it would be real neat as a rifle weapon.




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